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In reality (an alien concept to some) it was a little more than 4 1/2 years ago. Hope your math is better when you're "managing $30 Billion" before you turn 30. So you've gone from zero to hero in 4+ years on ET? What a heartwarming story ! Why am I not surprised to see that you're a fan of Jack Hershey and his "methods"? http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=1164604#post1164604