I voted for Obama.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by KINGOFSHORTS, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. genetkev

    genetkev

    Hi Friends,
    Barack Obama stepped onto the national political stage when the then-Illinois State senator addressed the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Soon after Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, author Jerome Corsi began researching Obama's personal and political background. Scrupulously sourced with more than 600 footnotes, THE OBAMA NATION is the result of that research. By tracing Obama's career and influences from his early years in Hawaii and Indonesia, the beginnings of his political career in Chicago, his voting record in the Illinois legislature, his religious training and his adoption of Christianity through to his recent involvement in Kenyan politics, his political advisors and fundraising associates and his meteoric campaign for president, Jerome Corsi shows that an Obama presidency would, in his words, be “a repeat of the failed extremist politics that have characterized and plagued Democratic Party politics since the late 1960s.”In this stunning and comprehensive new book, the reader will learn about: -Obama's extensive connections with Islam and radical politics, from his father and step-father's Islamic backgrounds, to his Communist and socialist mentors in Hawaii and Chicago, to his long-term and close associations with former Weather Underground heroes William Ayers and Bernadette Dohrn—associations much closer than heretofore revealed by the press
    -Barack and Michelle's 20-year-long religious affiliation with the black-liberation theology of former Trinity United Church of Christ Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose sermons have always been steeped in a rage first expressed by Franz Fanon , Stokely Carmichael and Malcolm X, a rage that Corsi shows has deep meaning for Obama
    -Obama's involvement in the slum-landlord empire of the Chicago political fixer Tony Rezko, who helped to bankroll Obama's initial campaigns and to purchase of Barack and Michelle's dream-home property.
    -Obama's far-left domestic policy, his controversial votes on abortion, his history of opposition to the Second Amendment, his determination to raise capital-gains taxes, his impractical plan to achieve universal health care, and his radical plan to tax Americans to fund a global-poverty-reduction program
     
    #41     Dec 1, 2009
  2. I haven't seen anything 'far left' out of Obama yet. Everything he's done has been very middle-of-the road to the majority of Americans.

    There is nothing 'controversial' about Obama's votes on abortion to any person that supports the freedom of the individual to make THEIR own medical & reproductive decisions.

    The only thing 'impractical' about Universal Health Coverage is the difficulty in overcoming the greed of insurer's, drug companies, and those that already have coverage and the congreess reps who rely on their contributions.
     
    #42     Dec 1, 2009
  3. Obama is on record as a senator as being extremely irrationally pro-abortion, much more so than even most generally pro-choice persons. One of McCain's debate failures was to not illustrate his infanticide happy votes where an abortion was botched, and the job had to be completed in a "let it die" scenario, where treatment is refused when any medical ethic would demand it, where Obama has one of the most radical positions possible.

    Regardless of where one sits on abortion, this person is NOT prochoice, he's *radically* pro-abortion, period.

    People thought Obama was merely mainstream prochoice, he was not, and a hallmark of his is APPEARING to be moderate, to get votes, while VOTING to the left of Chairman Mao on actual actions.

    From the Union payout to screw bondholders in the car deal, we are dealing with unprecedented usurpation of executive power, etc.

    To call health care "reform" modest and incremental is utter stupidity, it is the hallmark of all socialist regimes, and this forced participation or massive fines or years in jail monster is not incremental, it is the whole ball of wax shoved down moderate America's throat in one fell swoop...
     
    #43     Dec 1, 2009
  4. I'm not going to get into any discussion about abortion in regards to an outlier situation that might occur in 1 out of 20,000 cases. The vote you are referring to was nothing more than another attempt to outlaw abortion and criminalize the procedure.

    As far as 'health care' you don't know what's in the bill because it hasn't been finalized or passed. Also, the bill is being written by Congress: not Obama.

    Fianlly, you guys might want to drop the bombastist rhetoric like 'Chairman Mao' and 'Socialist'. It just shows how much out of touch with reality that the conservative movement is. On the other hand, it can only help progressives in the next election.
     
    #44     Dec 1, 2009
  5. psst. maybe that's a hint of how nutty you are.

    Ignorance is a good excuse too.
     
    #45     Dec 1, 2009
  6. Ironic for you to call me 'ignorant'.

    While I can't say that ALL conservatives are stupid I can say that all stupid people are Conservative. On the other hand, I have NEVER met a liberal/progressive that wasn't better educated and had a higher IQ than the average person. It isn't that being liberal makes you more informed but rather the fact that you are better informed which makes you liberal.
     
    #46     Dec 1, 2009
  7. #47     Dec 1, 2009
  8. Fa ct: The law I refer and his VOTING RECORD on it as a senator to PROVES CONCLUSIVELY Obama is radically proabort, not prochoice.

    Most persons are nominally prochoice, they do not want an outright full blind ban, but want some reasonable restrictions.

    The law in question attempts to gauge the INTENT of the "mother" with regard to the outcome, if the abortion is *botched* and the late term infant manages to make it out of the body alive. Obama is a true believer, and the most pro-abort (not pro-choice) president in US history.

    You are severely misinformed about this, I have researched it for YEARS.

    Regards HCR, sure SOME alterations (mostly cosmetic, likely) will occur, we do not have s FINAL bill, but anyone with any brain can see it like night and day, including the predictable Stupak amendment stripping.

    I HAVE read major sections of this monstrosity, have you? It is hard to read all of its intentionally vague language it was prepared by litigators, by litigators, to permit broad interpretation to "intent diviners" by judicial review, INTENTIONALLY.

    This bill is the destruction of the US.

    I have dreaded this bill for many decades, and the socialists have fought for it at least since 1948, and now they are about to force it on all of us.

    It is criminally stupid to argue this bill is anything less than pure socialism, as a path toward single payer government ran medical decisions. And radical statists like Obama know it. That is why they are doing it, not to help people with coverage, please do not be so naive.

    Calling Obama what he is, a radical Alinsky protege, is not an exaggeration at all, sadly. What is sad is so many delusional people who should have no legal right to vote because of stupidity or lack of accurate information.
     
    #48     Dec 1, 2009
  9. I seriously doubt that this single bill will result in the destruction of the US. If it does, then we are nothing but a paper tiger anyways.

    Why in the world would you 'dread', for decades no less, a development that removes the absolute single greatest threat to the safety and comfort in our lives ?!?!

    6 out of 10 personal bankrupticies in 2007 were the result of MEDICAL BILLS. Out of those 6 cases due to medical bills, FOUR (4) !!! had 'insurance' at the onset of their illness.

    No other industrialized nation has personal bankruptcies due to medical bills. It's absurd. YOU and all taxpayers pay for this anyways so we might as well nationalize the system, everybody pays and everybody is coveraged.

    I have absolutely no idea by what you mean by 'radical statists' but it sounds like more meaningless bombastic rhetoric. As far as economic theories like socialist, communist, and capitalist: I'm a simple UTILITARIANIST. Whatever works for the largest amount of people is fine with me.
     
    #49     Dec 1, 2009
  10. Well he DID promise to "radically reform America"... and the crowds cheered. (But under his breath, couldn't you just hear him mumble... these stupid, STUPID sheep. They have NO idea...")
     
    #50     Dec 1, 2009