I told you BS was BS!

Discussion in 'Options' started by wxytrader, Apr 1, 2024.

  1. wait, when did we get on the same side of this argument?
     
    #141     Apr 9, 2024
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  2. 75% of us are here because we couldn't go pro in some sport, the others i guess are putnam winners. guess which i am. everything is a duel.
     
    #142     Apr 9, 2024
  3. taowave

    taowave

    You lost me at "BS is good because I can use it in business and make money, then I'm not even trying to touch that argument because that's not what I'm talking about"..

    In the real world,Trading,not academia,that is all that matters.

    Its similar to saying BJJ is flawed as its not terribly effective in standup,but the BJJ practitioner mauls every "decent" stand up striker out there...

    Simply put,it appears to be very effective,however flawed.

    Now you could make the argument that pure BJJ practitioners have met their match in MMA with guys cross training in Boxing,Muay Thai,Judo,Wrestling. Agreed...

    But until you demonstrate that you have come up with a far superior model which takes advantage of BS flaws and "mispricing", BS is as good as it gets...

    If you want to be the best,you have to beat the champ :)



     
    #143     Apr 9, 2024
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  4. wait, i just realized on my daily walk that these awards are practically older than I am. did they even let black people and girls do math back then? you are bragging about undergraduate college math awards from 35 years ago as the reason you are relevant today? um, nah.

    I ranked top 1 percentile in the NLE in high school. I literally couldn't tell you sh-t about latin except what my latin name was in 8th period senior year. you may call me Raymudus!
     
    #144     Apr 9, 2024
  5. ok, so this is what i was saying before, you give me a benchmark to beat and I will do that. I'm letting you set the rules.

    How do you use BS in your world? And I will present you an option to beat it, that is more simple. And if I cannot, I will show you my best results and how BS is better.

    I'm letting you set the rules so there's no blah blah blah.
     
    #145     Apr 9, 2024
  6. poopy

    poopy


    How do you value a strip of options?
     
    #146     Apr 9, 2024
  7. poopy

    poopy


    You believe that calculus and linear algebra has changed much in 35 years? South Asians are all of the top 10 spots in the Putnam. You're making an analogy between a dead language and math?

    If you're such an overachiever then why are you broke?
     
    #147     Apr 9, 2024
  8. taowave

    taowave

    LOL,I was hoping you wouldnt ask that. I left the IB world a while ago and we did price off of BS,but I havent used it since . FWIW,I was the trader,not the quant.

    I started as a market maker on the trading floors,and I now make markets in selected equities options..No need for any modeling...First come first served.
    Its all I do as i have discovered an inefficiency which is slooowly evaorating...

    Now,if I was making markets in longer dated options I would use it,despite its "flaws"..

    I guess what I am asking you is if your model comes up with vastly different values that are outside the bid ask of the listed equity options??

    And if so,would you blast away,delta hedge due to the perceived mispricing per your model??








     
    #148     Apr 9, 2024
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  9. taowave

    taowave

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

    I would phrase it a bit differently,but if one truly has built a better model,wouldnt they be obscenely wealthy???

    And at the end of the day,whats a pricing model going to do in the listed markets?





     
    #149     Apr 9, 2024
  10. to be fair, that's not a benchmark, but since yall seem to be so adverse to planting a flag anywhere, i'll get back to you.

    so you do realize that you need to provide some historical strip of options that we both then value and use, however you use it, and see who comes out on top? would you like to provide that part of the puzzle now? or should i start blind, which sure i'll do it?
     
    #150     Apr 9, 2024