I told you BS was BS!

Discussion in 'Options' started by wxytrader, Apr 1, 2024.

  1. so what is the defense man, for real, put up some evidence for BS being a good model. break it down for my feeble mind.
     
    #101     Apr 3, 2024
  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    It is a good friendly debate. We are taking lessons from from both sides.

    No need to turn it into a duel? o_O
     
    #102     Apr 3, 2024
  3. I already did and you pointedly ignored me, so I feel like I am wasting precious bytes. But I'll humor you since I am waiting for something to finish calculating.

    In general, a good model does not need to perfectly reflect reality. Instead, it is a conceptual representation that is based on a set of assumptions that can be explicitly and easily understood. The level of detail is chosen for a specific purpose, balancing fidelity against tractability. Look at other disciplines for examples of scientific models. C. elegans (aka nematode worm) has 302 neurons and yet it is a good model for how our central nervous system functions. Is it a perfect representation? By no means, but it's easy to work with and easy to understand. There are numerous examples like this, from Schwarzschild radius to Navier-Stokes PDE.

    Black Scholes is a good model because it's based on an intelligent set of assumptions and is so simple. That makes it tractable, easy to fit and understand the perturbations. The models like SLV are much more complicated to fit, have free variables that required historical estimation and still don't reflect the real life dynamics.
     
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    #103     Apr 3, 2024
  4. themickey

    themickey

    That's quite a lot of big words for a slow learning elf! :)
     
    #104     Apr 3, 2024
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  5. FYI, there is an International Math Olympiad Silver Medalist posting in this thread. Also Putnam. He's still in finance, 30 years post, not academia.

    Hint: he's not on your side of the argument.

    Stop posting on this topic, quit while you're only this far behind.


    Edit: removed years of awards to avoid doxxing
     
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    #105     Apr 3, 2024
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  6. taowave

    taowave

    Dude, play with your own head.:)

    I'll be the first to admit,I don't put up 8 percent on my best day.

    Not everyone has your hubris and imagination






     
    #106     Apr 3, 2024
  7. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Long, long ago it was said, something to the effect, if you want to make a million dollars on Wall Street start with two million.

    The numbers get bigger, its applied to more than Wall Street, but yes some of us have heard it a time or two or a hundred times before.
     
    #107     Apr 3, 2024
  8. taowave

    taowave

    So selling puts is risk free by your definition.Goes up you collect premium,goes down "you are actually getting paid to be wrong".

    Never looked at short downside gamma that way




     
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    #108     Apr 3, 2024
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  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    he said that to justify his long term options trade which had some very unique situations.

    the same long term options trade that cost him is AAA rating just as he was trying to buy the train company.
     
    #109     Apr 5, 2024
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    wxyztrader and simplemelike.
     
    #110     Apr 5, 2024