I think I figured out why trading can never work for so many people

Discussion in 'Trading' started by ChkitOut, Mar 2, 2013.

  1. zdreg

    zdreg

     
    #111     Mar 4, 2013
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    #112     Mar 4, 2013
  3. There are no significantly profitable traders commenting on ET. There may be a few "has beens", but nobody actively commenting on ET is a significant trader. I include myself in this observation.
     
    #113     Mar 4, 2013
  4. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I'm not telling anyone how to trade, just wanted to present a couple trend-following tactics that produce net profits (that means over series' of trades, not every single trade), things that happen more often than not, which was requested.

    I basically shared everything about those tactics. The limit order entry method is one, and as it was pointed out, stop entries are another. Do your own research on the instrument you want to trade and figure out what works best for you. Why should someone else tell you every detail of their personal trading plan? Even if I did that, you wouldn't follow it.

    As for selling books/products, I sell none of those. The only thing I'm selling on any given day is futures contracts.
     
    #114     Mar 4, 2013
  5. the difference between selling books/products and futures is every future gets returned for a refund, the question is are you charging a restocking fee? :D
     
    #115     Mar 4, 2013
  6. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    That's the broker's job, damn restocking fees every which way!

    :D
     
    #116     Mar 4, 2013
  7. don miller had a good analogy about trading.

    its simple you're buying wholesale, selling retail


    low/high in a trading range = wholesale

    the middle of the trading range = retail

    low/high in a channel = wholesale

    regression line of channel = retail

    spike = get it while its hot!
     
    #117     Mar 4, 2013
  8. WoodyK

    WoodyK



    I don't know what kind of loser you are but don't lump me into your negative crap. I posted initially to be of help to someone- period.

    I assure you I am in no way involved with anyone on this site like Marketsurfer, etc. I have communicated with an individual in Toronto and maybe one other.

    What you don't realize before I ever traded commodities -I was already very wealthy. I have always chased a buck. My mother says I sold water to people on the train from Philly to LA (in 1945) when I was 3...

    At 11, I got my father to open a stock account from the money I earned working in his supermarket. The broker was Montgomery Chaney Scott ( I think). I turned less than $500 into enough to buy a new white Chevy Impala for cash @ 16. A year later I traded it for a new Lincoln convertible. I had enough left over to buy enough stock in Avnet Electronics (it went from like $10 to $68) to put myself through Wharton. There I met a young broker on the Phila Exchange and we went into RE business together. The rest is history.

    In the early 70's I first traded only the June Cattle contract making 400% return with point and figure charts and a few AG commodities long all through that decade. Admittedly I knew little compared to today.

    At 39 I had enough money to last me for the rest of my life from RE so I picked up and moved to La Jolla CA where RE was on its ass. I bought some- actually a lot. Sold my CA holdings in 1999-2000 and moved to Scottsdale AZ. Same thing- bought more RE. In 2005 I sold and moved to Seattle area. RENTED ONLY. Three years later I relocated to Vegas and bought really heavily- (2000 sq ft foreclosures). All told, with broker/ partner with connections @ legal newspaper auction acquired more than a hundred fifty units many as low as @$45/sq ft.- none more than $60. We started selling beginning this year since Las Vegas is HOT. There is NO inventory!

    When I was first moved to La Jolla CA in early 80's I took $20K from a large insurance settlement and shorted 20 C Crude Oil. That's been my grubstake all these years. Oil went down nearly $20 to $9.95. I NEVER had to use a dime of my capital to trade any commodity since.

    In 2000 I met a retired investment banker who owned 2 jets @ Scottsdale airport. He was a cool guy and we became fast friends. We both bought 20 C of Gold and Crude. He was reeling from a $3million loss in the stock market.

    Long story short, my son who is a computer genius developed a trading system to trade the big S&P. My friend put up $50K to test it. We called orders directly to the floor. Believe it or not it worked phenomenally and has continued to this day basically unaltered. We eventually switched to the Emini.

    Lastly, after talking to Tom Baldwin last month we recently decided to trade short term the 30 year T Bond. My son temporarily moved east to be up in time to take advantage of the early morning trades. He had NO trouble making 32 ticks/day so we decided to go big or go home.

    That's why I inquired about buying an IMM seat. We calculated we could save $6M in commissions. Very disappointed to get zero replies out of 15K here. We were also looking into a foreign company but found a much better way and going with it.

    So now we are relocating to Europe at the end of the month to trade 12 hours a day in a much more favorable time zone. (We've always left many trades overnight in S&P which we can now do also).

    I'm looking but will NOT buy a 120ft boat until the end of this year. Today I saw a 120ft Sovereign in Ft Lauderdale for $5.5M... Sorry but will pay cash without flinching. Not that big a deal. After all I am 70. If that upsets you, so be it...

    And YES, I will promise to send pictures (@ end of the year or perhaps sooner). The name of the ship will be Serenity.

    But I will also look up independent traders in London. Maybe there are some on this site but after my negative experience trying to find even one IMM seat owner, I am not sure. We'll see...

    Woody
     
    #118     Mar 5, 2013
  9. achilles28

    achilles28

    Wow. Great story. Thanks for posting.

    BLSH. SHBL
     
    #119     Mar 5, 2013
  10. WoodyK

    WoodyK

    Just saw this a few minutes age. Not that unusual:


    "To reduce his schedule, Mr. McGoldrick switched time zones by moving with his family to London a few years ago. He began a push into alternative-energy investments long before the sector got hot. His group bought Horizon Wind Energy, based in Houston, for about $150 million, infused $800 million to build up its wind-turbine pipeline and recently sold it for $2.1 billion to a Portuguese power company."
     
    #120     Mar 5, 2013