I need help with trading options

Discussion in 'Options' started by ilovemoney01, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. jamesbp

    jamesbp

    Listing trades without position size is NOT the same disclosing his trading performance.

    If you think my statement is "False" as you claim
    ... feel free to provide any evidence of Sossy's actual trading performance for any period
     
    #61     Oct 21, 2019
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  2. raVar

    raVar

    Jesus Christ.

    You people are hopeless
     
    #62     Oct 21, 2019
  3. jamesbp

    jamesbp

    "You people" ... classy answer from the Principal of Trading Firm

    You reckoned Sossnoff discloses his trading performance
    If so ... where is it disclosed
     
    #63     Oct 22, 2019
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  4. comagnum

    comagnum

    Right - trend following is dead. Dunn Capital is one of the oldest & most well known trend followers.

    Trend following is still doing well, it's just that the space got crowded with noobs fund mgrs jumping into this space.

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    Last edited: Oct 22, 2019
    #64     Oct 22, 2019
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  5. Amahrix

    Amahrix

    Everything looks great when you look at ensemble average doesn’t it? (As opposed to time average).
     
    #65     Oct 22, 2019
  6. comagnum

    comagnum

    It looks great be because it is, some funds will do great for a few years but few have ever had long term performance this good. Dunn's trend following YTD is +39.8%.
     
    #66     Oct 22, 2019
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  7. Wheezooo

    Wheezooo

    Why would you assume he's the principal of a trading firm? I don't see ONCE where he mentioned that. Not ONCE. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
    #67     Oct 22, 2019
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  8. jamesbp

    jamesbp

    Different thread ...
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    #68     Oct 22, 2019
  9. tommcginnis

    tommcginnis

    Eyeballing it, Dunn underperformed since 2008. Now, I don't think that an 11 year bull is a valid measure, as "performance" without recognizing risk is a lottery ticket -- which I would not recommend as a capital management business model. But the "since-the-recession" run makes me wonder about the other money managers' miss-performance: have we adjudged the others too harshly? I don't know the answer to that.
     
    #69     Oct 22, 2019
  10. raVar

    raVar

    Actually, I can't say how. But I know something of Dunn.

    Bill is since retired. Just age. His son I believe is running things now. But yes, they are still going.

    Yes, they are amazing at what they do. Anyone that argues with Dunn's various programs like WMA? Doesn't understand the first thing about performance.

    Dunn's legacy and the current firm needs studied by ANY serious student of the markets.

    And I agree completely with comagnums statement ... "Trend following is still doing well, it's just that the space got crowded with noobs fund mgrs jumping into this space."

    Amen.

    I'd add that it got crowded with noob fund managers jumping into the space, that don't have the stones that Bill did (if memory serves? I think Bill was once a Marine) ... nor the talent, nor the math ability. In short, people that just saw "up" on a chart, jumped in, without understanding what it takes to be in Asset Management.
     
    #70     Oct 22, 2019
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