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Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by windward, Dec 30, 2003.


  1. Are these shops limiting there traders to intraday only?
     
    #31     Dec 31, 2003
  2. Dustin

    Dustin

    Not if you are smart with the money and they trust you.
     
    #32     Dec 31, 2003
  3. Pretty sweet. When I was trading prop you got unlimited BP intraday...and no overnights whatsoever. Makes a man think. Would you mind PMing me a name or two of firms that will cut a deal like this?

    Thanks
    C.
     
    #33     Dec 31, 2003
  4. Why don't you just sell the 5 million dollar pad,invest the money in various tax exempt municipal bonds and live off the interest which will bring you about $250,000 a year,if it's yielding 5%?
     
    #34     Dec 31, 2003
  5. He was referring to his trading book($5MM) not his residence.

    wtf are you talking about? 5% in munis?! Not on this planet.

    arb.
     
    #35     Dec 31, 2003
  6. windward

    windward

    thank you arb- thanks for the insight- basically start over in a different angle of trading ie systematic/technical analysis. I've seen these brainiacs and you have to be incredibly computer saavy and mathematically inclined. I possess an edge in neither. My strategy was to pay the street X commission dollars and get service that produced X+. With the Reg FD my business got crushed. I also traded large blocks against the block desk and "clean up" flow. That gig is over as well with ECN's and the end of fractions. I learned to make money in the stock market consistently you have to possess and edge. I'm not confident that pulling up charts or tapping at some ocillator system is an edge. I'm looking for something else to do.
     
    #36     Dec 31, 2003
  7. windward

    windward

    I'm basically just crying into my beer. And this is free therapy
     
    #37     Dec 31, 2003

  8. Your access to looks and order flow are gone, but that's not to say that's the only edge left, even in retail. I trade flat, but I've traded direction in the past and agree that oscillators are nigh on worthless for trading.

    I trade with what I believe to be good edge -- if you're interested in trading retail from home/office I think a short gamma options methdology would be worth a look. Trade flat deltas, short gamma and watch your hedges. It's a phenomenal lifestyle and require 1/1000 of the turnover of daytrading. I'm in the market no more that 30 minutes a day.

    I'd suggest you read Hull for theory and Baird(Option Market Making) for a practical approach. If you've zero options knowledge, look to get Natenberg's, "Option Volatility and Pricing"

    Best,
    arb.
     
    #38     Dec 31, 2003
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  9. windward

    windward

    I have zero option experience.... I'm not kidding myself that I can pick up a book and generate monthly p/l of 30-50k with low risk? on a couple million in BP?
     
    #39     Dec 31, 2003
  10. ig0r

    ig0r

    Ever looked into spread trading? Trading seasonal spreads on commodities is a fairly low risk strategy and can give you several hundred percent on your margin in 3-6 months.
     
    #40     Dec 31, 2003