I just got an assignment...HELP

Discussion in 'Options' started by maae10, Apr 19, 2007.

  1. Tums

    Tums

    that's what we have been telling her all along.
    THanks for repeating it. She might finally hear the voice.
     
    #71     Apr 20, 2007
  2. maae10

    maae10

    The way I'm looking at it now I think the stock is going to be sideways for the next 2 weeks and then start to rise. I want to sell the puts now in case the stock pops earlier then I expect.

    What I did was sell the shares and then sell puts at a lower strike price to thwart another assignment.
     
    #72     Apr 20, 2007
  3. stylark3

    stylark3


    Ok, so now you are in a naked put position again?

    Well, if this is the case, make sure that you close out
    the position if the stock price should threatens your
    break-even position in order to avoid another excercise.

    It is my understanding that conceivably, you could select options
    on stocks that will remain at or above the strike price and earn
    profits repeatedly over time by selling puts without the threat
    of excercise. However, it takes only one dip in price (gap
    down) to be exposed to excercise, and this risk cannot be overlooked. So, you should always be ready to purchase the
    shares at the strike price you specify -- which you consider
    to be a fair price for the stock.
     
    #73     Apr 20, 2007
  4. jsmooth

    jsmooth

    The two books everyone should read before trading options:

    1. Option Volatility & Pricing - Natenberg
    2. Options, Futures & Other Derivatives - Hull

    You sold AAPL May 07 $115 Puts? There is only an open interest of 3 on those puts....thats your position i assume?

    <B>Theoretical Data</B>
    Implied Vol. 56.7807
    Delta -0.9197
    Gamma 0.0104
    ** Theta -0.0225 **
    Vega 0.0375
    Rho -0.0827

    If your going to keep that position open you better hope AAPL stays above its 50 day moving average (which is around $89.75), a break below that will be bad news.
     
    #74     Apr 20, 2007
  5. MTE

    MTE

    Great point! And the key to avoiding assignments is knowing when and why are options assigned/exercised early.
     
    #75     Apr 20, 2007
  6. stylark3

    stylark3

    Actually, MTE, I mispoke a little.

    She actually would know what she was going to get if
    the option were excercised because of the strike price specified.

    But, the price of the stock may have gapped much further
    down than the strike price at which she must purchase
    the shares. Therefore, she can end up with some very
    expensive stock in her account which will translate to a big
    loss if the stock is sold immediately -- and that would be the
    wipe out.

    Correct?
     
    #76     Apr 20, 2007
  7. MTE

    MTE

    Yes, the stock can gap down and you'd end up with a big loss. I know what you meant.

    In any case, as I mentioned above, selling (writing) options requires you understand the mechanics (i.e. the reasons) of early assignment, if you don't understand the mechanics then you shouldn't be selling options as you have no way of gauging the assignment risk.
     
    #77     Apr 20, 2007
  8. Tums

    Tums

    don't worry, the market is making new high everyday. You can sell all the puts you want... until the black swan returns.
     
    #78     Apr 20, 2007
  9. maae10

    maae10

    Yup, it started as 5 contracts and 2 got assigned yesterday. These three got assigned today.
     
    #79     Apr 20, 2007
  10. maae10

    maae10

    I was betting that C and WMT would stay put and took losses on both of those. Ironically my losses this month was on the less volatile stocks and my winners were on the volatile stocks.

    Many of my picks are stocks that I'm betting will stay in the same price range so any big movement doesn't bode well for me.
     
    #80     Apr 20, 2007