I Hope I'm Wrong

Discussion in 'Politics' started by vanzandt, Jul 23, 2024.

  1. Are you saying that there are no NATO countries bordering Ukraine? Is that what you're saying?

    On a side note, how do you get all the piss & vinegar stains out of your clothing?
     
    #21     Jul 24, 2024
  2. Yes. And anything within those countries that is on their side of that border is not a violation of NATO. Since you apparently missed it the first time, I will say again that the U.S.- based on its own discretion and internal decision making- may or may not assist countries that we do not have a treaty obligation to protect. We have a treaty with Taiwan.

    Again, pay your fucking NATO dues, you Canadian pikers, before lecturing us on how to use force.
     
    #22     Jul 24, 2024
  3. lol
     
    #23     Jul 24, 2024
  4. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Norad intercepts Russian and Chinese bombers operating together near Alaska in apparent first.


    Published July 24, 2024 9:22 p.m. EDT

    The North American Aerospace Defence Command (Norad) intercepted two Russian and two Chinese bombers flying near Alaska Wednesday in what appears to be the first time the two countries have been intercepted while operating together.

    The bombers remained in international airspace in Alaska’s Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) and were “not seen as a threat,” according to a statement from Norad.

    The U..S and Canada, which together comprise Norad, intercepted the Russian TU-95 Bear and Chinese H-6 bombers. The aircraft did not enter U.S. or Canadian sovereign airspace, Norad said.

    Russian flights into Alaska’s ADIZ are not uncommon. In May, Russia flew four aircraft into Alaska’s ADIZ, which Norad said at the time “occurs regularly.”

    But the presence of Chinese aircraft appears to be a new development. In March, the head of U.S. Northern Command, Gen. Gregory Guillot, said China was pushing farther north into the Arctic and he expected to see aircraft there “as soon as this year potentially.”

    “What I have seen is a willingness and a desire by the Chinese to act up there,” Guillot told a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee. “We have seen them in the maritime. We have seen them under the cloud of a technical or scientific research, but we think it is certainly multi-mission, to include military. And then I expect to see air activity in the Alaska part of the Arctic as soon as this year, potentially.”

    “It is a very big concern of mine,” he said.

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    Imagine that.
     
    #24     Jul 24, 2024
  5. nitrene

    nitrene

    The current leadership in China & Russia will eventually lead those countries into a deflationary depression & that always leads to war. It was Germany the last 2 times and those ended the same way. Putin & Xi have abandoned economics for political power. Their endgame is war. It is obvious.
     
    #25     Jul 25, 2024
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  6. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    If we were smart, we would stoke the animosity between the two of them, and not drive them together all the time.
     
    #26     Jul 25, 2024
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  7. spy

    spy

    This is less of a concern for me because... they only need to wait. Right leaning media is reminding us that we may join Russia and China by choice.

    Further to the left than Sanders!??! OMG.

    fun.jpg
     
    #27     Jul 26, 2024
  8. wildchild

    wildchild

    There has been a strategic window of opportunity for China and Russia for the last 4 years.

    The current administration is a disaster and look no further than the aggressive behavior of China, Russia, and Iran.

    Biden/Harris oversaw the Afghanistan debacle.
     
    #28     Jul 26, 2024
  9. vanzandt

    vanzandt

    Jeffrey Gundlach (The Bond King - Doubleline Capital) today on CNBC said pretty much what I wrote above, that if an adversary wanted to make a move with the least amount of U.S. interference, now would be the time to do it. So at least he agreed with me, and he's in the business to gauge risk.

    So there. :p
     
    #29     Jul 31, 2024
  10. I knew you were special.
     
    #30     Jul 31, 2024