I hate when people say most traders fail because they are undercapitalized

Discussion in 'Trading' started by WhiteOut56, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. #51     Jan 21, 2013
  2. cornix

    cornix

    #52     Jan 21, 2013
  3. at anyrate

    when it's all said and done

    the number one reason for failure

    will be

    undercapitalization

    don't you just "hate it"

    when they say that?
     
    #54     Jan 21, 2013
  4. #55     Jan 21, 2013
  5. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    I'm familiar with HFT, arbitrage, and programs that recognize and instantly react to price movement off keywords/numbers during news releases.

    I wasn't clear that my post was in reference to individual retail traders (this thread is about "undercapitalized" traders failing, not what large asset managers and iBanks are up to).

    The footprints (graphic representations of price/volume) left by institutional traders gives the educated and experienced small retail trader clues to what till happen next more often than not.

    The small retail trader can develop and trade a plan based on these edges or can develop an automated system to do the same.

    If you're a fund manager running billions of OPM, then Surf is indeed correct that it will take more than trading simple TA patterns to outperform one's institutional peers because it's the institutional traders/investors' very size that forms these price and volume patterns that us little guys make a living off of.
     
    #56     Jan 21, 2013
  6. Point taken, sorry about that.
     
    #57     Jan 21, 2013
  7. cornix

    cornix

    #58     Jan 21, 2013
  8. I hear ya, it's a rough business, Except for the fact "There are traders with an actual edge."
     
    #59     Jan 21, 2013
  9. NoDoji

    NoDoji

    Here's an example of an intraday trading "edge" based on the price footprints of "big money" surrounding a major news release (FOMC, CL/NG inventories, NFP, etc.):

    If price makes a directional move of at least X on a 5-min chart, then pulls back no more than Y on a 1-min chart, buy or sell a break of the previous high or low just prior to the 1-min pullback. Place a stop loss no greater than A and target a minimum profit of B (or better).

    The values of the letters are based on a thorough study of average relative price movements of your chosen trading instrument around major news releases. Once you analyze the stats over a significant period of time (say, 3-6 months), you create a set of rules like those above with real values based on probabilities in your favor.

    Once you do this, you don't need huge capitalization to make steady and considerable profits.
     
    #60     Jan 21, 2013