I HATE Algorithmic Trading Systems, Guessing Clicking is Easier

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by SimpleMeLike, May 28, 2025 at 8:51 AM.

  1. Good Morning julienfuentes,

    LOL hahahahaha smh this is a very good Morning laugh.

    You getting scammed.
     
  2. Businessman

    Businessman


    He wants something that works every month without multi month drawdowns. Algo trading cant do that unless it HFT doing 100s of trades per month.

    So he imagines if he 'clicks clicks clicks' a 100+ times a month and has an edge he won't have many losing months.

    Having and maintaining the edge is obviously the hard part. Easier said and imagined than done, especially when manual trading seat of your pants style.
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2025 at 7:58 AM
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  3. Good Morning Volpri,

    You know i love reading your post @volpri. You have the best posts.

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    you are the man buddy.

    Thank you for the video.

    Click click click click click click. Make that money. Nice and easy
     
  4. Good Morning Businessman,

    You NAILED IT. YOU NAILEd it buddy.
    You absolutely right. Forget drawdown for months or weeks.

    If your algo in drawdown for months, YOU DONT HAVE NO DAMN TRADING SYSTEM. YOU HAVE A SCAM AND LIEM

    Let me show you the ONLY algo trading system ANYONE should put money on. Give me a minute. I be back.
     
  5. themickey

    themickey

    LOL.
    Just told ya, algos are not necessarily about automation, what part of that didn't you understand, besides, what made you think I wanted to help you?
    You're beyond help bro.
     
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    Interpretation: "I love you Volpri, PLEEEESE VOLPRI HELP MEEEE!"
     
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  7. themickey

    themickey

    This whole thread is a desperate cry for help from OP masquerading as his wisdom about shit algos.
     
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  8. Businessman

    Businessman


    Those three algos you posted in the original post were clearly over optimised for 2020, 2021 and 2022, while also checking they didn't lose too much in years before that.

    Typical kind of trap most novice algo developers fall into.


    I actually did that in 2005 with one of my first Algos.

    I back tested with data from 2002, 2003 & 2004. With a quick check by testing with a few years before that as well (so called out of sample testing)

    Luckily for me, that system made money for a couple of more years in live trading, but only a fraction of what the back test was suggesting. Then it stopped working almost completely.

    You weren't so lucky.
     
    Last edited: May 29, 2025 at 8:31 AM
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  9. TheMordy

    TheMordy

    Please explain more what trap you exactly mean with over optimizing ?

    Thanks a lot
     
  10. Businessman

    Businessman

    Testing with a focus on the most recent few years of data and making sure the Algo looks really good for those recent years.

    Then doing some out of sample testing to make sure it didn't lose much in years prior.
     
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