I HATE Algorithmic Trading Systems, Guessing Clicking is Easier

LionsWarthogsMillions · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:00 PM

Ricky Roma said:
How much of that $5m target have you amassed through this clickety click method...
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I'm guessing SimpleMeLike has probably made $1,155 through scalping click click ES Master Trader. I would love to be proved wrong though and find out he has made $111,555 or $1,111,555. I'm rooting for the guy

volpri · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:09 PM

Sorry for the long write ups but I cannot explain my thinking in 1 or 2 sentences or even in one paragraph. It has taken me years to learn what I know and I don't mind sharing it but I simply cannot do it justice in short tiny oneliner or two liner posts or quips.

I am going to do a few trades then go work in my garden. Happy trading. Oh by the way I can jump in the markets any time of the session. I have no set time. Every bar has movement. Every bar can be traded if one wants to try and trade it. There is NO NOISE. There is only movement! That one concept is a liberating thought and leads to the development of strategies and techniques to capitalize on those movements. With practice one can develop the skills.

Ricky Roma · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:11 PM

SimpleMeLike said:
Good Morning Ricky Roma,

Please watch the videos below and think about the question you ask me again. You be ashamed of yourself for asking another man how much money he has. Why the F would I tell you how much money I have. Are you crazy? You better be careful out here.

Watch the videos below. Perhaps this will show the importance of keep your mouth shut, before somebody kill you and take your money.

https://www.youtube.com/@thefamilytv_/videos
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Jeez...I'm an ocean (thankfully) away from you. Do you think I might come over and mug you for your $5m?....or maybe slightly nearer $5? You're a sensitive soul SML. I do NOT care how much money you HAVE. Just wondered if you were on track to making that EXTRA $5m for your nest egg.

I will take a guess that Taylor Swift has over $5m...and ohhh lets see...maybe Bruce Springsteen too? Oh shoot....I really shouldn't have told you guys that. Now their lives are in danger if they ever visit that Tobacco shop. I'm so sorry Taylor. And Brucey...love ya Boss but watch out...there's a darkness on the edge of town.

p.s.......is that you they are looking for in the Tobacco Shop Mugging?

SimpleMeLike · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:12 PM

Ricky Roma said:
Jeez...I'm an ocean (thankfully) away from you. Do you think I might come over and mug you for your $5m?....or maybe slightly nearer $5? You're a sensitive soul SML. I do NOT care how much money you HAVE. Just wondered if you were on track to making that EXTRA $5m for your nest egg.

I will take a guess that Taylor Swift has over $5m...and ohhh lets see...maybe Bruce Springsteen too? Oh shoot....I really shouldn't have told you guys that. Now their lives are in danger if they ever visit that Tobacco shop. I'm so sorry Taylor. And Brucey...love ya Boss but watch out...there's a darkness on the edge of town.

p.s.......is that you they are looking for in the Tobacco Shop Mugging?
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Hello Ricky Roma,

Everybody on ET forum is on track to make money. Otherwise they would not be here.

SimpleMeLike · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:13 PM

LionsWarthogsMillions said:
I'm guessing SimpleMeLike has probably made $1,155 through scalping click click ES Master Trader. I would love to be proved wrong though and find out he has made $111,555 or $1,111,555. I'm rooting for the guy
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Hello LionsWarthogsMillions,

Thank you. I am rooting for you too. I am rooting for all ET forum members.

We all are trying to be rich as efficient and quick as we can.

I been gambling with SPX options too. I love it.

SimpleMeLike · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:15 PM

volpri said:
I don't let it get away from me. If I find myself out of sync with a market and have taken 3 or 4 losses in a row especially if they are doubled or tripled up losses and am not getting back my losses quickly then I will likely just quit for the day and do something else. Tomorrow is another day. No point in throwing good money after bad. If I am not in the groove, for at least for myself, I find it best to just stop for the day.

As far as blowing up an account I do not recall ever blowing up and decimating a futures account. I am sure I would recall that, vividly.

Understand me doubling up and tripling is not for revenge trading. It is a technique I use to get back a loss quickly WHEN my SL has been hit and the market is moving on a little or a lot of momentum. I figure if it moved enough to take out my SL and did so with at least a little momentum then if I can reverse and double-up it only has to travel 1/2 the distance it did in my previous loss to get me back to BE. And if I triple up in 1/2 the distance I will get back my loss plus be back in the money.

However, I don't always go reverse on the doubled up. Some I will double or triple up in the SAME direction my previous loss was in but failed to make me a profit. It depends on the CONTEXT. Here is an example:

Market is in at least a 20 bar TR. Price is trading in the top 1/4 of the TR. Now I know most BOs in a TR fail so I will fade them. So, I short in the top 1/4 of the TR but before the top is reached. But on the next bar or two price jumps up and out of the top of the TR on momentum hitting my SL. The momentum says I can go long and likely get a scalp on the momentum that is playing out. However, I am aware that we are now at the top of the trading range or just above it and that 80% of BOs fail and within 5 or 6 bars price will trade back down to the top of the TR or down into it. So I lost on a short in my previous trade but I will double or triple up now SHORT again betting the move up will be followed by a reaction within 5 bars and price will likely trade back down to at least the top of the trading and much of the time back into the TR Enough to make a 1/2 distance scalp as my previous loss but with double or triple size and usually in seconds I have recouped my loss and back in the money. Should the BO prove to be successful then I will dump my entire short position and go with the BO direction. Most BO ATTEMPS fail top or bottom of a TR so fading them is a viable strategy but I always now and am aware that sooner or later a BO WILL be successful, and I best go with it regardless of what my present position is in.

The same concepts apply out with BO attempts south of a TR and recouping a loss on that end of a TR. But in the reverse.

If trading a 1m chart and I get back my loss on the next bar or two I am fully aware there are MANY MANY more 1m bars to come in the session to make a profit. The loss is now history and has absolutely no bearing on my next trade. This is ONE technique I will use. There are others I will use in the same exact context. Like: widening my SL in that first entry so it is not hit on that BO attempt out of the top of the TR then simply scaling in or averaging down short with same size or even double the size still betting that the BO will fail. 80% do fail. Just another way or another technique to use in the same context.

If all this is taking place in the middle of the TR and not the top, then I will use yet different techniques to get back a loss fast by increasing size and reversing or even going BACK in the same direction as the loss but on increased size.

The basic idea is to get a loss in the past and recouped as quickly as possible so it no longer affects my trading discernment, and I can focus clearly on what is in front and the next series of trades. I mentally write the loss down as history and almost as if it never existed as I am back where I was before it happened and that usually takes place in seconds at the most in a few minutes. It IS NOT a hours long process. It is immediate! By increasing the size and seeing the momentum (for it took out my SL) I only need the momentum to move 1/2 or less the distance to get back my loss. So, I am leveraging momentum and size in my favor.

This technique (of increasing size and reversing direction) I learned years ago from a trader named George Angell.

I think HANDLE123 ON ET kind of uses a technique similar to this but in his own way. I recall, if I am not mistaken, that he will risk 8 points in the ES to make 1 or 2 points. If his stoploss gets hit he then reverse (not sure if he increases size) and will bet that since it traveled far enough in the direction to hit his SL then it has a good probability of continuing on and he will reverse directions and make back his loss plus 1 point or two. I just double or triple up so it has to travel LESS distance to get me back in the money.

I know people think I am revenge trading but I am not. It is and INTENTIONAL and deliberate strategy and technique I am employing.

Sorry for the long post but it is hard to explain this stuff in a short post.

volpri
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Hello volpri

I absolutely love and adore your long post. THANK YOU. LOVE IT!!!!

volpri · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:16 PM

Instead of Trumps BIG Beautiful Bill I'll stick with Volpri's Small Beautiful Profits. LOL

volpri · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:17 PM

SimpleMeLike said:
Hello volpri

I absolutely love and adore your long post. THANK YOU. LOVE IT!!!!
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Thanks. Most won't.

SimpleMeLike · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:18 PM

Businessman said:
Fixed that for you
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Hello Businessman,

What is your person definition of Gambling Day Trading?

Thank you,

SimpleMeLike · Jun 3, 2025 at 1:19 PM

volpri said:
Thanks. Most won't.
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I certainly appreciate you fully.

I am definitely in synch and agreement with your mindset regarding trading.

Only a real ES Day trader can relate to what you write.