I Got this one wrong guys.....

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Max E., Apr 9, 2020.

  1. Max E.

    Max E.

    It's going to be years before the economy hits new highs, people who think the economy will quickly recover from this are deluding themselves, it's not like we can just flip the switch and turn everything on again.... the e tire restarsunt industry Is dead... there's talk about making airlines only book at half capacity which means every single flight is a loss, like I cant see how the economy recovers from this..... entire sectors are being wiped out......

    There is a huge disconnect right now between the economy and the stock market....I guess I was wrong being overly bearish on the market.... but I sure as hell dont want to be long right now...

    In my opinion we are in a far worse position than 2008 economically and the market is only twenty percent off the highs it doesnt make any sense to me....

    Are investors this fucking dumb or does the fed have that much power? Time will tell.
     
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    #251     May 16, 2020
  2. hafez50

    hafez50


    I 100% agree . But i'm starting to see traffic pick up big the last week.Things are somewhat crowded were i live . But yes things will take 5 months to flow threw for crap to really sink in. The new norm could be 8-10% unemployment . The wildcard for stocks is does some of the $6 trillion making zero in money mkt's come back in the mkt ?Does the Fed buy stocks if the mkt goes back near lows? Were traders and it doesn't really matter
     
    #252     May 16, 2020
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  3. dartmus

    dartmus

    if index arbitrage or whatever robot trading strategies can (and have) lead the markets in the past... then ...where are we now? Markets have already shrugged it off? It looks certain that's the correct case to be focused on if using things external to the economy such as stock indexes, to determine the direction of the economy. Also fits the farmers almanac seasonal political cycle of a HUGE election year rally .. regardless of who's winning any political nonsense. It just is, (sometimes), the fact, (or not) and we or at least I must get back to working on more tangible, pertinent events, within my own circumstances, instead of thinking about these distractions.

    but I hope I have an opportunity to return soon, because these discussions help clarify possible market directions.
     
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    #253     May 16, 2020
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  4. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Good points. In my gut I'm completely confident that the biggest trading opportunity of our lives is to short the fuck out of this market once it breaks down out of this channel.

    I made the only top call in my life here on January 24th, I was right, though a month early. Ive been bearish wrong this last 6 weeks, but ultimately I strongly honestly believe we're about to see the biggest crash in history.

    Consumer spending has been the demand catalyst, last week's retail sales big miss shows weak demand.

    My biggest regret in my trading life will be not shorting massive size by buying inverses during the upcoming crash. I'm transferring a lot of money to my accounts next week.

    China conflict good for SOXS SQQQ, I'm also trading TVIX SRTY FAZ SPXS SDOW
     
    #254     May 16, 2020
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  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    The upcoming crash? Didn't we just have one, to the tune of 35ish%? Good lord, what is next?
     
    #255     May 16, 2020
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  6. ironchef

    ironchef

    Are you going to do it this time, trade massive size? We will be rooting for you.

    Me, I don't dare deviate from Kelly.
     
    #256     May 16, 2020
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  7. dartmus

    dartmus

    antibody strength increases from deep space (unknown viruses)
    as man and machine merge to become future civilizations (on distant stars).

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    #257     May 16, 2020
  8. dartmus

    dartmus

    the proverbial
    Fountain of Youth

    (selloff or rally)?
     
    #258     May 16, 2020
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Oh, we have the cure already. But someone over there has an issue with flashing lights, and missed it.

     
    #259     May 16, 2020
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  10. Where did this end up after all
     
    #260     May 17, 2020