I Give Him A Week - Max!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by cstfx, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. cstfx


    Top US Afghan commander mocks Biden: report
    (AFP) – 1 hour ago
    WASHINGTON — The US commander in Afghanistan mocks the vice president and denounces a top diplomat in a magazine interview, while his aides speak dismissively of President Barack Obama.

    Tensions between General Stanley McChrystal and the White House are on full display in an unflattering profile in Rolling Stone of the commander of US and NATO forces in the Afghan war.

    McChrystal jokes sarcastically about preparing to answer a question referring to Vice President Joe Biden, known as a skeptic of the commander's war strategy.

    "'Are you asking about Vice President Biden?' McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?'" the article quotes him as saying.

    "'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say: Bite Me?'"

    McChrystal tells the magazine that he felt "betrayed" by the US ambassador to Kabul, Karl Eikenberry, in a White House debate over war strategy last year.

    Referring to a leaked internal memo from Eikenberry that questioned McChrystal's request for more troops, the commander suggested the ambassador had tried to protect himself for history's sake.

    "I like Karl, I've known him for years, but they'd never said anything like that to us before," McChrystal tells the magazine.
    "Here's one that covers his flank for the history books. Now if we fail, they can say, ?I told you so.'"

    Eikenberry, himself a former commander in Afghanisan, had written to the White House saying Afghan President Hamid Karzai was an unreliable partner and that a surge of troops could draw the United States into a open-ended quagmire.

    The article revisits the friction between the White House and the military last fall as Obama debated whether to grant McChrystal's request for tens of thousands of reinforcements.

    Although Obama in the end granted most of what McChrystal asked for, the strategy review was a difficult time, the general tells the magazine.

    "I found that time painful," McChrystal says. "I was selling an unsellable position."

    An unnamed adviser to McChrystal alleges the general came away unimpressed after a meeting with Obama in the Oval Office a year ago, just after the president named him to take over in Afghanistan.

    "It was a 10-minute photo op," the general's adviser says.
    "Obama clearly didn?t know anything about him, who he was... he didn?t seem very engaged.

    "The boss was pretty disappointed," says the adviser.

    The profile, titled "The Runaway General," portrays his aides as profane and intensely loyal to McChrystal, while arguing the general has seized control over the war on the military and diplomatic fronts.

    The four-star general also derides the hard-charging top US envoy to the region, Richard Holbrooke, and complains about a dinner with an unnamed French minister during a visit to Paris.

    "Oh, not another e-mail from Holbrooke," McChrystal says, looking at his messages on a mobile phone. "I don't even want to open it."

    In a hotel room in Paris getting ready for a dinner with a French official, McChrystal says: "How'd I get screwed into going to this dinner?"

    "The dinner comes with the position, sir," says his aide, Colonel Charlie Flynn.

    "Hey, Charlie," McChrystal says, "does this come with the position?"

    McChrystal gives him the middle finger.
  2. cstfx


  3. He's a soldier. If you want a diplomat in that position, appoint one and lose the war.
  4. TGregg


    Oh, they will. Never fear.
  5. the afgan war is already the longest running war in us history with no end in sight against a few towelheads that live in caves. is that winning?
  6. da-net


    There has not been a desire on the part of government stooges to win a war since WWII. It is the desire of government to keep conflicts running so as to distract the people from the real issue. Governments Out Of Control and To Make Money For Those Financing The Wars! and To Trample Peoples Liberties In The Guise Of Security

    Korean War = a truce that still has possibilities of continuing

    Vietnam War = no desire to win only prolonged conflict

    Iraq War = 2 times and still continuing

    War on Drugs = no clearly identified enemy, more expenses, more lost lives, more bureaucracy, more lost liberties

    War on Terror = no clearly defined enemy, more expenses, more lost lives, more bureaucracy, more lost liberties

    Maybe it's time for the people to declare war on Governments Out Of Control and Those Making Money Financing The Wars by replacing our Senators and Representatives starting in November 2010. Send a clear message that Senators and Representatives are "TEMP" jobs and that they "Work FOR The People" and not for themselves!
  8. 377OHMS


    McChrystal will be sacked, today. He has been making inappropriate noises for some time.

    It seems the adminstration has been undercutting McChrystal since his requests for more troops. It is astonishing that he lasted this long.

    I despise Barrack Obama and disagree with his policies and world-view but I think he is entitled to some obedience from his generals. We'll see a MacArthur/Truman moment this afternoon.

    The adminstration would prefer to lose the war and blame it on George Bush than actually engage the Taliban militarily.

    We might as well just pull out completely. We can go back if needed.
  9. Words of truth or not, he should be given the boot. The General is not paid to give personal opinion to the general public. He's paid to follow orders and get the job done. If he can't do those two things he should have resigned rather than throw a hissy fit in public.
  10. I am inclined to agree. If one of his aides or soldiers spoke that way of him, how would he react? Chain of command must be followed and respected.
    #10     Jun 22, 2010