i'm not trying to get on your case, but what did you think when jimmy page collaborated with puff daddy - or aerosmith and run dmc? i'm not referring to those 2 songs, but there really is more to it than the corporate crap that infests every genre of art and life in general these days as hydro mentioned. there's so much rap out there with a positive message and/or true artistic chops, it's hard to see it generalized, but easy enough to understand how it can happen. rap isn't the only pop genre that doesn't rely on conventional instrumentation, or 'actual talent' as ppl would interpret conventional here.. among other things, rap/hiphop explores the rhythm over melody and that's just a foreign, barren landscape to many ppl pretty much the same as walking into a fine art museum and saying 'bullshit that's not art... anybody can do that'. almost by definition, cutting edge expression challenges what you're already familiar and comfortable with, and understandably not everyone is interested in that. and i'm definitely not saying all or even most rap is cutting edge, but at it's core the genre was incredibly innovative, just like jazz in their infancy, classic rock and jazz were considered talentless crap by a lot of people too
The message I hear in rap is that "Hillary says we can hate whitey and we don't cooperate with the police and we are lawsuit happy and power mad to the point where we are useless and subsequently our neighborhoods are run by mobsters". Hee hee.. I get a pretty good laugh out of black culture with regard to the badasses, it's self destruction by help from the public sector all the way, tell 'em anything but feed 'em real bullshit and token payments, these politicos are masters of deception. I've had black pals too, they werent gangstas is all, they were working on educational goals and yeah, they had businesses and were running up against stupid crackers out to sabotage whatever they did, they sued them early and often and had good cases but as employees they just worked because they knew that if they went on power trips on the job it meant that many less blacks being hired in the future.... sometimes the best plan is to suck it up and do what's right... I know some black peeople that hate gangstas so much they wouldnt piss on them were they on fire too, they just can''t do that much about it because the politicos and gangstas have a stranglehold on the community. In Los Angeles they have $100 million a year they hand out for gang mediation... gangstas call themselves something different and collect the money, one of them got busted for selling a boatload of AK's recently, his organization was getting millions from the city and was called "No Guns"....
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Invest in a fucking iPod you fucking socialist losers. Who gives a shit about what the gym is playing. Just put on your earphones and enjoy what the land of oppurtunity has provided for you.
I mentioned groups which were in their keys period around 1990, prior to the Clintons even starting their initial run for office. So your argument holds no ground and falls right back into what I said about current mainstream music. NWA & Public Enemy sang heavily about police injustice at the time. Remember Rodney King? Yeah, right before that incident, which was apparently quite common at the time. Nowdays, that sh*t does not really go on like that anymore, the message that you hear is what's sang. It holds little relevance, it's just packaged corporate crap riding on the foundation that was built by the real rap artists.
"Socialist losers?" OK, asshole, here's why. The gym played the music fairly loud. Not quite, but almost club loud. For me to drown that out with an iPod, I would have to turn up the volume. But, see, I like my hearing.
Yes, but I'm guessing that rap will remain that way in the eyes (and ears) of most people. This emperor don't got no clothes.
you got a prob TOO with MOTOWN T-dog ibetyado the way you walk talk really sets me off get the FUNK out!