I am getting my butt handed to me on a daily basis!

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by jeredlbb, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. smwbbe

    smwbbe

    This statement drew me to the Modrian Table in Set D/BM REV. Upon making it to Set D, BM REV links to BM REV ==> C turn. The latest version of the Modrian Table also listed an additional BO T1 with the notes, "Kill @ n-1". Could you further explain this?

    I know that I'm working hard to keep up with you - as are the rest of us participating in the thread. Thanks again for taking the time to post and answer our numerous questions.
     
    #911     Oct 28, 2013
  2. ncx

    ncx

    Thanks everyone for thoughtful Q's to Jack.

    If you wish to specify something precisely so that it will not be confused with anything else, you would say that it is-what is left over after you have excluded or eliminated everything it is not. A mango is not an orange, a peach, an apricot, a canteloupe and so forth. These are non-mangoes. When you exclude all the things that a mango is not, then what you are left with is the opposite of a non-mango, namely a mango itself. This is called the double negative of a mango and every permanent and impermanent phenomenon can be individually specified by its own double negative.


    Lets move the discussion towards anticipation and n+1. That's where the meat is.
    Something is anticipated and it does not happen. Hypothesis changes.
    Lets try to see those Not T2Fs and Not Not T2Fs in slow motion while the bar is evolving.

    To punctuate correctly we should use up all the letters in the alphabet. Watching only closes of 5min bars won't cut it.

    You need to anticipate making an error (or two) to be correct.

    I'll start with a subfractal related question in the attatchment (regarding looping rate of EEs and symmetry):
     
    #912     Oct 29, 2013
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  3. Great post.

    We all better print this and put it in our journals. If you have time, please review the past posts of ncx. (and add the comments to your files.)

    As everyone see's I cloned a PP1 and dragged it over to the spot in question. Then I didn't edit it to a PP6 as I should have.

    Ugh!!!!

    Here's today's chart (29OCT13) where you will find the PP6's done correctly. Notice the red boxes. They are help notes for review of trades.

    Note the lack of a PP6 on bar 29. If a wait interrupts, then the PP6 is killed.

    The logic of the mango is important as can be seen.

    Another aspect of this is how iterative refinement has to be handled. All known mangos have to be treated purely. IF and WHEN a redefinement is scoped out, then the purity test is not allowing any disturbances to other expressions have been made and locked down.

    Above there is a mention of D and E bands where the not not was examined for months. They are around and if and when they come up I'll drag out some past reasoning and text.

    My view of trading is that the market continually offers. The extremes you see left on the table are there as a consequence of the tempering to allow a complete system to exist.

    The red boxes show some practical considerations. This comes from the width of the offset a person achieves as he does his thinking as far to the right of the Present as a consequence of lock-ins and a consequence of this certainty allowing the collection of more of the extremes.

    Many people have said that they view certainty as something that is on bars before the close arrives. the price cases do require all of the seconds, when a "wait" is in the space. And it is true while waits are around they indicate that making money is in the shadow for the moment. we do let our failsafe intrude on waits since we are not forfeiting anything unnecessarily. The rtl slope helps preserve some of the sympathetic dynamic.
     
    #913     Oct 29, 2013
  4. Could you please repost the chart? It seems to be damaged.
     
    #914     Oct 30, 2013
  5. gladly.

    If it is poor again I'll resave it.

    this one works when I check it.
     
    #915     Oct 30, 2013
  6. Here is the 30TH

    What is noticeable is that I am annotating morre and more about doing the trades.

    I will post another day where I did such, as well.

    Following this chat I will post the five pages of the log for further clarity.

    Also I was asked about any additional up dates of pieces and items on the Modrian table.

    Two items have occurred.

    On Modrian the PP4 to PP4 occurs on set B and set D (See 10OCT13, bar 7 and 07Oct13, bar 20, respectively)

    On the PP's sheet I have clarified a turn called OB PP4a (the two parts are P1 followed by P2 (after a t1 and P2 have occurred) See bar 55 today (30oct13)
     
    #916     Oct 30, 2013
  7. The log page 1
     
    #917     Oct 30, 2013
  8. the log page 2
     
    #918     Oct 30, 2013
  9. The log page 3
     
    #919     Oct 30, 2013
  10. The log page 4.
     
    #920     Oct 30, 2013