I am getting my butt handed to me on a daily basis!

I only catch your threads by mistake.
If you are saying you were posting real time trades and they were profitable ...

post the link... I will be happy to read them.

If you proved to people you actual make money trading on a consistent basis I will be surprised.

 

Its very much needed for the traders to limit their daily losses so that they can save the capital money for more better trades.

 

In that case you will probably miss this post.

I was making calls after the close for the next open and then I posted prints of the opening trade the following open. All of this was in an MAT account (One lead account and 9 linked-in accounts.) A friday, Monday and Tuesday were involved.

You have been here since 2001.

In three days of putting up prints I learned a lot.

One thing I learned was that most of ET does not understand how to get in on the open and ET'ers certainly mouth off about not being able to read prints.

If you are asking me to do something you could do yourself, then I can't be helpful enough to communicate to you. People can't really comunicate to each other when one of the persons is so weak


there is no way a person can prove anything to another person. Ask around to find this out. You have been here 12 years and have missed this or that. This is three times the four years of going to gollege to get a degree. so now you are older and accepting input from others has stopped working for you.

All you do is start thread about what is crossing you mind on a given day. you do not get anything anyone who responds to you says.

As you see your audience hasgrown very small.

there would be no consequence of you dong anything to see or understand my calls and their results. Like Pekelo, you can't provess the input that came to you.

 

I'm still a little unclear on the Set B trends and I'm hoping you can clarify my understanding of these types of trends.

If we always reverse on "c" turns, is it the case that a Set B trend always has a bookmark violated during the "a" to "c" turn segment so that once we reach the second "c" and reverse we place ourselves on the right side of the market?

-river

 

Thank you Jack,

I have tried the search feature and cannot find a drawing that shows the A, B, C, D turns? Can someone post any drawings you are referring to?

Thank you again.

 

We already took a couple of laps on this in this thread.

Lets take another one.

there are two types of trends that are incomplete.

Look at a trend flowing along and developing.

Everything is normal and ordinary.

A trend is atarting as a tyoe Set A trend.

As usual an a turn happens on an EE from one of the bands. the modrian table was consullted and there was no n -1 value available on the yellow or green panel. this meant that no c turn coulc be available on the n turn. thus, it was certain that the EE was in a band and it was a Dom to non dom a turn.

Just understand that at this point you have an incomplete trend and it is going to continue to form.

An ensuing series of bars form volume sequential values that lead to a turn on an EE. EE the EE in in a band and the EE is established to be in one of the 10 sub sets of all EE's.

You expecte it to be a type turn that goes form a non dom to a dom.

as you keep records and gain facility, you begin to notice that this incomplete trend at this type of EE is not too usual AND there are failsafe or OutSide bars to consider. In fact you notice usually there is an OB happening.

From the graphic owrk you have done on price channels you see the is concerning the RTL arena.

At this time the market sentiment is shifting with respect to sentiment considerations AND the context is non dominant sentiment.

If in a non dominant context and this expressed sentiment suddenly, by a brief catalyst, shifts it nature with respect to sentiment, you are looking at a "nature" of sentiment shift.

This "natrue consideration is that the sentiment remains the SAME but its nature goes from non dominance to dominance.

so on the Modiran Table you "know about", you are now gaining more "insight" by processing what you sense, and where what I write can become long term memory to give you additional inference. this inference newly arrives, allows the modrian table to contain more "facets" than you "percieved" before.

So the Set B is on the incomplete side and this column is the column for consideration of the nature of a sentiment to shift from non dom to dom.

Thus Set B flows as c turn to dominant leg to an a turn to non dominant leg to the nondominant leg's nature shifting to dominant to c turn to begin a new trend that stepped out of an incomplete trend. This c turn is in the reversal context.

Admittedly, the time of the reversal leaves a little on the table, BUT to compensate, you alway are making the full offer of the market in a context of complete certainty.

In CW trading terms. I would say the Set B contributes quite a lot to the inefficiency of CW sets ups that hat "protective stops". There is nothing writtien so far in CW tht addresses the link between the context in markets and how context relates the the type of trend that is in operation. The nodoji CL chart points out the areas that are unavailable for making money. As a person peruses this example it becomes clear that adding trend types would be a powerful iterative refinement bridging towards taking the full offer after emerging from fewer positive expectency setup sets.

As people do deduction to fill in the differentiation spectrum of the mind, you can see it is like doing adjacent piano fingering scales the gain facility in seeing the properfingering of playing complex pieces.

Start with the hitch to do add/deletes to get other cases.

Start with set C to extend to set D drift. then go form set c to set B to set A to understande what causes incompleteness vis a vis human psychology.

Start with the P1 to T1 to P2 to see the variants of volume sequences

 

the Types of trends are Set A, B, C and D.

the knids of turns are a, b, and c.

to find both of these. Print and bunch the pages of this thread.

Leaf slowly while you read. you will find everything and it is printed in an order as well. you will have all the relational folow sheets to guide you.

you cannot find what you looked for because that "naming" is never used.

you will notice I put the Modrain table early in the thread. this made the pivotable information known as a goal to begin to seek.

you may have heard of the Motley Folls, liberal arts majors who are parasites to thers ignorance. they onlt wanted to make money as parasites.

Outsourse100 was playing the fool for a while. His P%L tank became empty so he whem to ergo zooming (no cogito)

 

Yes, we have taken a couple of laps around the Set B trends already. I appreciate your patience. Your detailed answer contains a lot of information on how Set B trends develop and evolve but I still, after a few readings, cannot tell if your answer to my question above is “yes” or “no”.

Allow me to ask the question as two separate questions.

Do we always reverse on “c” turns?

Do Set B trends (“c” to “a” to “c” turns) have a bookmark violated during the “a” to “c” segment?

Again, I appreciate your patience. Understanding Set B trends is important. (I don’t explicitly follow your RDBMS system, I don’t know a Mondrian table from a changing table, and this isn't meant to be a negative comment.) I’m trying to refine my use of “the geometry of the dependent variable” by understanding and incorporating the four types of trends you have been discussing in this thread. If I'm still unclear about Set B trends perhaps others are as well and we all might benefit from a more clear picture of these trends.

-river

 

I'll build that bridge for you. It will take a few days to do the merge of the implications for dependent variable analysis being tip[ped off by some triggers from volume.

 

Using "The Pattern", this is how I look at Set B trends:

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