"I Am A Market Maker"--The Quote

Discussion in 'Options' started by riskfreetrading, Feb 4, 2008.

  1. i see the speed of these market maker softwares. faster than any finger trader.



     
    #51     Jun 25, 2008
  2. dmo

    dmo

    Last year at the show in Chicago I demo'd a high-end option trading system - the one the MM firms use. I was interested in its capabilities, but all the company rep wanted to talk about was how fast it was. It can't be hooked up to the internet like most systems - you need to be directly on a backbone. Only a few buildings such as CBOT in Chicago are wired for it.

    I also picked up a magazine there called "Automated Trader." It's dedicated to algo trading, nothing else. There was an interview with an American guy who lives in Singapore, and they asked him if he also does computer arb in Chicago and New York. He said no, because he can't make an electron go faster than 186,000 miles a second, so he can't compete with guys who are right there.

    Think about it. It takes an electron 1/20 of a second to go from there to here. Apparently that's enough to keep him out of the game entirely. I guess that's how the game is played at that level these days.
     
    #52     Jun 26, 2008
  3. Its pretty simple you're not going to be an off floor market maker no matter what software you have. The exchanges do protect their members and the rules of parity and priorty are in place too. You're objective should not be to be a liquidity provider, but to be a piquidity taker.

    For the moment the ISE the CBOE and the PHLX do the vast majority of the business in equity options. Each has different rules as to who can stream in their markets and how. Same goes with their rules on how much liquidity you are responsible for and what the payment for order flow deals are like. None of the programs are "set and forget".
     
    #53     Jun 26, 2008
  4. rosy2

    rosy2

    the guy is an idiot. everyone colocates there servers closer to the exchnages now.
     
    #54     Jun 29, 2008
  5. HSC.1775

    HSC.1775

    I have to concur that anyone who uses the term "riskfree" must be suspect.
     
    #55     Jun 29, 2008
  6. ammo

    ammo

    there are times,10- 12 a year where the market sets up for huge free money,those trades ,if they were the only ones we made,would make us very profitable,if we could just sit and watch the screen without trading the rest of the time,this last one from 1440 to 1270 was a gimme,that would be as close as one gets to riskfreetrading
     
    #56     Jun 29, 2008
  7. its been well established that the poster who goes by the name riskfreetrading, does indeed trade risk free, simply becasue he does not trade actual real money.
     
    #57     Jun 29, 2008
  8. What a wisdom! If you trade on simulation, there's no risk! he did manage to trade risk free!

    lol...


    lovely.
     
    #58     Jun 30, 2008
  9. :eek:
     
    #59     Jun 30, 2008