Discussion in 'Economics' started by KINGOFSHORTS, Sep 16, 2009.

  1. What you are seeing is the making of a huge hyperinflation equity run.

    The dollar will implode and equity will skyrocket Zimbabwe style.

    Why go long bonds and treasuries only to see your purchasing power dissapear.

    High quality dividend stocks owners will do well during the next superbull run coming thanks to the dollar losing its power.
  2. Fuc&*ng government keep screwing with prices. First they encouraged people to buy RE and it eventually imploded. Now banks are loaded with houses and the manipulators are trying their best to jack up prices or at least draw a line prventing further declines.

    In many areas there are TONS of bank owned shit. Yet, when you make an offer, it gets rejected.

    I know 1 guy who made 30-40 offers on bank-owned houses in last 3 mos. He was rejected on all.

    They really want prices UP, UP, UP!

    And why not? Government gives them free money to play with!

    Same story with stock market.
  3. I am now KINGOFLONGS
  4. S2007S


    For some reason Im leaning the other way, I think if the dollar collapses and hyperinflation takes center stage I dont think equities would rally, I just think the system would totally fall apart. The money they are printing and the debt thats mounting just to get out of this recession is mind boggling.
  5. Hyperinflation would crush corporate earnings and be ruinous to equity markets.
  6. Keep in mind that in generations past, workers had bargaining power to demand higher wages & try to keep up with inflation. Today, the working class are virtually slaves with no representation & inflation will keep lowering living standards for average US household until they're on par with other countries. Let's just hope it won't be on a par with 3rd world countries!

  7. I saw a zimbabwe stock chart and it showed stocks go up

    I found this


    Zimbabwe is an economic hellhole. Inflation is running at 1,000s of percent per year... the economy is collapsing...and the stock market is actually going up faster than any in the world. But Zimbabwe is still worth looking at, because it reminds us of what wealth really is, and that - given the right circumstances - anyone can turn a dream into a nightmare.

    "Living the American Nightmare," says a headline at SFGate.com. The article tells a now-familiar story. People bought houses using no-money-down adjustable rate mortgages. Now, their monthly installments are going up and they can't pay them.

    Foreclosures are said to be running at the highest levels in 30 years. California homeowners are in a "tailspin" says TIME magazine. In San Bernardino, for example, foreclosures rose 987% in the second quarter of this year.

    And here's a sign of the times on the other coast. In Baltimore, we used to see small signs along the highways telling you to refinance...now the signs say, "Avoid Foreclosure".

    Is the subprime problem over...is it "contained"? If so, nobody told the stock market. Hovnanian, the nation's largest homebuilder, is down 82%...and still going down.

    But let us return to what we can learn from Zimbabwe...

    Real wealth is neither having more money, nor having higher priced stocks. Real wealth is accumulated capital - buildings, tools, factories...and the skills to know how to use them. Wealth can be money too - but only if the money represents real, useful capital. In Zimbabwe, they've got their Zim dollars up the wazoo. But the real capital in the country is fast disappearing - stolen, destroyed, neglected, redistributed, consumed or exported. Under these conditions, increases in stock prices are empty; the stock market in Harare has become a kind of fantasy casino, where people can pretend to get rich by betting against each other.

    When the US stock market hit a peak in January of 2000, it looked to us as though we had seen the top. Stocks do not tend to hit another peak once they have just come off a major one. And even if they do, it's not a peak you want to climb. It's too treacherous. You make money by buying low and selling high. Start your climbing in the valley, in other words; it's safer down there...and the only way to go is up. As you go up, it becomes more dangerous. You have farther to fall. Eventually, you will want to get off the trail all together.
  8. ehorn



    In November 2008, the monthly inflation rate was 79,600,000,000.00% with an annual inflation rate of 89,700,000,000,000,000,000,000%
  9. Devin Brady

    Devin Brady ET Sponsor

    When are the banks going to stop inflating the market and start lending?
  10. Do you mean "lend to qualified borrowers", or just anybody who can fog a mirror?
    #10     Sep 16, 2009