Hyper inflation

Discussion in 'Economics' started by jerry11901, Mar 7, 2007.

  1. I think hyper inflation here will be when OPEC and China don't want more dollars.

    Interest rates will rise, Oil goes to $200/bbl, Gold to $2000/oz, Gas to $10.00, bread to $3.00, milk $5.00, but wages stay low because global competition prevents anyone from being able to make anything here profitably.

    Stagflation to the max.
     
    #51     Mar 13, 2007
  2. SteveD

    SteveD

    What form do you own gold? When people say they buy "gold" I have never understood exactly what that means....

    Coins, gold bullion, gold company shares, ????

    Two experiments:

    Go to a jeweler and see what he pays for gold, and in what form he buys it....

    Take your gold to your local bank and ask to exchange it for some dollars....

    Hell, have some fun, go to the local grocery store, fill up the basket and hand the clerk a few gold coins......should be good for a laugh....

    And, yes gold has been around for barter for 2000 years, but those days are long gone, boys and girls.....

    Whale oil and coal oil were also popular but we now have electricity.....

    I would say gold lost it's luster when the richest man in Saudi Arabia bought into APPL, McDonalds and a huge investment in Citibank.....the rest of the world has become more sophisticated and moves money electronically....

    The US Dollar is the world currency.....accepted anywhere, any time,......one would be very naieve to believe otherwise....

    Just as English is the business language of the world....

    Other currencies are important, other languages are important but they play a supporting role to the US ......

    As more countries began to "hoard" their oil I think oil will rise over the next several years.....not by too much, as that encourages alternative methods...

    US oil companies only control about 15-20% of supply.....balance held by country controlled oil companies, Aramco, Pemex etc etc...

    All very inefficient so they need US expertise to find, develop, and monetize the resources....

    That is why WFT, HAL etc etc should be good buys for the future....


    SteveD
     
    #52     Mar 13, 2007
  3. The others will nationalize their resources or increase exploitation taxes as prices rise. The trend has occurred before and will occur again.

    What is the oldest surviving paper currency, and what is its current value in relation to its value when it was first issued?

    At first they decline slowly, but as time passes and more and more is printed, the value declines more rapidly. Find any historic paper currency for which that didn't happen. In the end they all have failed.
     
    #53     Mar 14, 2007
  4. SteveD

    SteveD

    I give up, LOL.......


    The world is coming to an end......



    SteveD
     
    #54     Mar 14, 2007
  5. Be careful, you're starting to sound like Paul Volker. The only difference is he said it a year ago.
     
    #55     Mar 14, 2007
  6. Hey Steve,

    If I was working at the bank or the grocery store, I'd be reaching into my own pocket to pull out paper to put in the register so I could keep your gold. There is a

    Go onto e-bay and buy bulk gold coins, like the $5 gold pieces, but bid on the real common dates and in low grade. If you win the auction, it will likely be because you paid $1 more than the next guy would have done. On any given night, you could probably even sell it on E-bay for more than you bought it for...of course you'd have to pay fees, which is cool with me since I own E-Bay stock. :)


    But as for me. I like borrowing dollars, buying property which holds its value, and then paying the banker back in dollars that are ever decreasing in purchasing power. If they decrease in purchasing power faster than the banks thought they would, then I win.

    SM
     
    #56     Mar 14, 2007
  7. But that no longer matters because its so easy for us to convert to other currencies electronically now.

    Think the US dollar is doomed? Fine, convert to euros, and hedge by shorting the US dollar.



     
    #57     Mar 14, 2007
  8. xiaodre

    xiaodre

    There's a pretty good thread somewhere around here by Gold Trader. He's making a good go of it. Gold seems to be about as silly as any other futures trading...

    Gold stocks seem to be about as silly as any other stock sector...

    The real kicker about your post, though...you implying that Iran is importing gas because they don't have oil in the ground. Two different things. They are an oil exporting country. They don't have the refining to keep up with their gas demands.

    In short, you, sir, are lying, which isn't that bad of a thing, but do you have to use so many exclamation points when you do it?!!

     
    #58     Mar 14, 2007
  9. The Pound Sterling?
     
    #59     Mar 14, 2007
  10. Deflation in an economy with so much debt, such as the US, is bad. Deflation hurts borrowers, who'd need to repay debt with more expensive dollars. How many trillions in debt do Americans have? (businesses, individuals, governments) Deflation lasting more than a few years would likely cause a lot of bankruptcies, as people would be unable to pay off their debt.

    You are thinking of deflation merely from the point of view of falling prices for milk and eggs. Deflation is more than just that
     
    #60     Mar 14, 2007