Hydroxy and AZM Improved Survival Rate by 100% in this study

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Jun 11, 2021.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    GWB was just a hack copying and posting articles written by extreme liberal idiots like himself. He even went to the extent of discrediting doctors like Simone Gold who is an emergency physician and a lawyer. Who do we believe? Professionals like Dr. Simone Gold or ET trolls trying to lecture us of their so called expertise derived from copying and posting extreme liberal hack, written articles full of lies and disinformation? Does GWB and other ET trolls posting their nonsense have a medical degree or passed the medical exam for doctors? So, sit your asses down idiots.
     
    #11     Jun 11, 2021
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  2. Smalfil/JEM please get some help!
     
    #12     Jun 11, 2021
  3. Ricter

    Ricter

    Africa is a continent, dunt.
     
    #13     Jun 11, 2021
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  4. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Sarah Palin 2.0
     
    #14     Jun 11, 2021
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  5. jem

    jem

    I got 100 grand for you vs 5 grand for me on that.
    I will find the escrow or we can use yours... I will pay the escrow fees.


     
    #15     Jun 11, 2021
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  6. It’s definitely someone associated with you..All your electronic devices would need to be scrubbed.
     
    #16     Jun 11, 2021
  7. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    Isnt this the 'medicine' that Trump DIDN'T take when he got Corona?

    Oh ya, that's the one, the moronic cult still can't get a clue.

    'Observational study'

    LMFAO
     
    #17     Jun 11, 2021
  8. jem

    jem

    You are 100 percent wrong. I have no idea who he is in real life and do not communicate with him....ever. That you refuse to accept reality is telling.
    Besides... why lie about it? I don't really give a shit if there are people who agree with me or not here.

    It used to be fun here and a distraction... but I admit my attitude changed when I saw such a large section of America give up freedom at the drop of the hat for fear and who were quite happy to ruin other peoples lives for their fear. I found it so selfish... destroying kids lives...

    Even now... so many fearful selfish fuckers who could have stayed home... but chimed about their fear... so many of these graduations lately are so fucked up...

    Such selfish sons of bitches... just stay home watch it on zoom but let the kids who wish to have normal ceremonies have normal ceremonies. ( none of my kids are seniors... I talking about friends kids and relatives.)
     
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    #18     Jun 12, 2021
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    "Study: hydroxychloroquine can boost COVID-19 survival chances by nearly 200%."
    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...verstates-studys-200-finding-hydroxychloroqu/

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    Post overstates study’s ‘200%’ finding on hydroxychloroquine’s power vs COVID-19
    • A study says a certain dosing of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin “improves survival by nearly 200%” among hospitalized COVID-19 patients who received invasive mechanical ventilation.
    • The study is posted on a website that publishes “preprints” — studies that “have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community.”

    • Experts called the study poorly designed and caution against drawing conclusions about cause and effect.
    When President Donald Trump released a statement listing things he said "I was right about," the top item listed was "Hydroxychloroquine works."

    As president, Trump controversially touted hydroxychloroquine, starting in the early stages of the coronavirus pandemic, despite a lack of evidence on whether it was safe or effective for use against COVID-19. But days before he released his June 12 statement on his website, news of a study surfaced that triggered more claims about the drug.

    "Study: hydroxychloroquine can boost COVID-19 survival chances by nearly 200%," read the headline of a widely shared post on Instagram.

    The post was from One America News, the conservative cable network that Trump has often praised. It was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

    The post exaggerates the significance of the study, which promotes hydroxychloroquine as helping only certain COVID-19 patients.

    The study says a combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was effective in certain hospitalized COVID-19 patients, but the study has not been fully vetted. It was posted on a website that publishes "preprints" — studies the website says are not yet peer reviewed by other scholars and that "should not be used to guide clinical practice."

    Experts told PolitiFact the study is poorly designed and cautioned against using it to draw conclusions.

    Hydroxychloroquine and COVID-19
    Hydroxychloroquine, which is an immunosuppressive and anti-parasitic drug used to treat autoimmune diseases such as lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, in addition to malaria, carries a particular risk for people with heart problems, plus other possible side effects.

    Interest in the drug emerged early in the pandemic, in early 2020, from two small trials, including one that used hydroxychloroquine along with the antibiotic azithromycin (brand name Zithromax) and reported that the virus was essentially gone in five days. The research society that published that article later renounced it, saying it didn’t meet its standards.

    In March 2020, as Trump touted hydroxychloroquine, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration authorized emergency use of hydroxychloroquine for certain hospitalized COVID-19 patients. But the FDA revoked its authorization less than three months later, after determining "it is no longer reasonable" to believe that it may be effective in treating COVID-19, "nor is it reasonable to believe that the known and potential benefits of these products outweigh their known and potential risks."

    What the study found
    The study cited by OAN was done by three researchers from the Smith Center for Infectious Diseases & Urban Health in East Orange, N.J., and one from the Saint Barnabas Medical Center in Livingston, N.J. The study says the researchers reviewed the medical records of 255 COVID-19 patients at Saint Barnabas who required invasive mechanical ventilation during the first two months of the U.S. pandemic. Its conclusion: Dosing of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin above a certain level "improves survival by nearly 200% in this population."

    The study was posted May 31 on medRxiv, a website that publishes studies that have not been fully vetted. This note is posted with the study: "This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice."

    The website also says about its "preprint" or "unrefereed" articles: "Before formal publication in a scholarly journal, scientific and medical articles are traditionally certified by ‘peer review.’ In this process, the journal’s editors take advice from various experts — called ‘referees’ — who have assessed the paper and may identify weaknesses in its assumptions, methods and conclusions … Readers should therefore be aware that articles on medRxiv have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors, and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community."

    Expert views
    Three experts who spoke to PolitiFact were critical of the study.

    Joel Farley, a University of Minnesota College of Pharmacy professor, noted that the study was designed not to test the effectiveness of the two drugs, but rather as an observational study that basically looks at survival and then models what things might have predicted survival.

    "The concern is that this poorly designed study might influence" prescribing of the two drugs "when the overwhelming body of evidence has shown it has no benefit for treating COVID," Farley said.

    Dr. Neil Schluger, chairman of the Department of Medicine at New York Medical College, said that to conclude cause-and-effect "is an obvious error," calling the study very small with little hard data. "It’s likely that patients who died rapidly received less total (of the two drugs) because they were dead; one can’t conclude from these data that they died because they got fewer doses. It’s also likely that if they received lower doses on a daily basis, it’s because they were sicker to begin with," he said.

    Ally Dering-Anderson, a professor at the University of Nebraska College of Pharmacy, said pairing hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin to treat a virus raises serious questions because azithromycin is a traditional antibacterial drug that doesn’t treat viruses and hydroxychloroquine has no known benefit in treating the SARS-CoV-2 virus. "There is no pharmacologically sound reason to believe that combining two drugs that don’t work will suddenly result in therapy that does work," she said.

    Hydroxychloroquine is not approved in the U.S. for COVID-19. The FDA recommends against the use of hydroxychloroquine with or without azithromycin for treating COVID-19 patients. The World Health Organization recommends against using hydroxychloroquine to prevent or to treat COVID-19 infection.


    Our ruling

    A widely shared social media post stated: "Study: hydroxychloroquine can boost COVID-19 survival chances by nearly 200%."

    A study says a certain dosing of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin "improves survival by nearly 200%" among hospitalized COVID-19 patients who received invasive mechanical ventilation, but the post exaggerates the finding’s significance.

    The study is posted on a website that publishes studies that "have not been finalized by authors, might contain errors and report information that has not yet been accepted or endorsed in any way by the scientific or medical community." Experts told PolitiFact the study is poorly designed and that no conclusion about cause and effect should be drawn from it.

    For a statement that contains only an element of truth, our rating is Mostly False.
     
    #19     Jun 15, 2021
  10. Are you still upset you didn’t get to chaperone your daughters prom?
     
    #20     Jun 15, 2021