Hunt the Boeing! And test your perceptions!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Josh_B, Jan 4, 2003.

  1. Nicely fallen items (placed)? on the grass there! do they even belong to the 757? again some can accept it that they were part of the plane some may argue this:

    You're joking, right? Just practicing your trollcraft?

    Additional to the fact that this represents less than 0.1 % of the volume of the alleged plane, what evidence is there that any of this was once part of a Boeing 757?

    Plenty. And not any 757, the 757 of Flight 77.

    It could be from anything. We know that something hit the Pentagon, that there was an explosion, and that where there is an explosion there will be debris of some sort.

    This debris is totally unidentifiable, and it’s volume is too insignificant to address the problem of unaccounted for wreckage

    Supporters of the 757 theory claim this fragment to be wreckage from AA 77, citing the AA colors as proof.

    In truth, it is the alleged AA colors which indicate that this cannot be part of the alleged plane... Clearly painted sections survive most crashes, as shown in the crash photos. But in those cases, no one is alleging

    an explosion catastrophic enough to vaporize 100 tons of plane.

    Where is this total vaporization theory coming from?

    They break up and perhaps burn a bit. In really fierce crashes, some of the plane may actually be destroyed, but even in these cases, tons of reasonably intact wreckage remains.

    You mean like the Flight 93? Not much there. WTC? Not much there. Someone quoted Lockerbie earlier, that plane stopped flying and fell to the ground at terminal velocity of 100+ MPH. That's why big pieces were intact. Here, the plane was going at least 250 and hit an immovable object.

    So these scenarios are consistent with the recovery of painted sections, even in bad crashes. The allegation that this brightly painted fragment survived is irreconcilable with the claim that 99.99% of the plane was vaporized.

    What evidence is there that the plane was completely "vaporized?"

    There’s a further problem with this piece of wreckage. The colors are wrong anyway. Take a close look at the color scheme used by American Airlines. First, note that the alleged wreckage has a white stripe next to red which is of a larger area than the white stripe. Note the absence of any blue stripe.Now let’s look at some actual AA plane photos and you’ll see that that this color scheme isn’t used. Except possibly in the American Airlines lettering on the top front part of the fuselage,

    Note that the striped color scheme which the crude fake has attempted to copy... Whoever designed and planted this fake, didn’t think it through.

    Does the above make sense?

    None at all. During manufacture, every single piece of an aircraft is numbered. Next you'll be saying that the conspirators dug up Boeing's manufacturing records and numbered these "fake" pieces to match. Plus, now you have another whole crew to keep silent for the rest of their lives.
    #51     Jan 6, 2003
  2. By putting that large graphic in, you've expanded the text so it has to be scrolled for every post that follows; the rest of the thread is ruined for ease of reading.
    #52     Jan 6, 2003
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    #53     Jan 7, 2003
  4. Good sleuthing Max. This begs the question from the conspiracy nuts: who and how did someone get a plane fragment onto the crash site?
    #54     Jan 7, 2003
  5. I guess they "planted it" just prior to the "missle launch." I wonder how much this tire/wheel and landing gear weigh for a 757? I guess no one noticed the small crane need to move it into place.

    #55     Jan 7, 2003
  6. take this quick test (for all you conspiracy theorists)

    Please pause a moment and reflect back, by taking the following Multiple Choice test:

    1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
    a. Olga Corbitt.
    b. Sitting Bull.
    c. Arnold Schwartzeneger.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    2. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
    a. Lost Norwegians.
    b. Elvis.
    c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    3. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
    a. John Dillinger.
    b.. The King of Sweden.
    c. The Boy Scouts.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    4. In 1983, the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
    a. A pizza delivery boy.
    b. Pee Wee Herman.
    c. Geraldo Rivera.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard by:
    a. The Smurfs.
    b. Davy Jones.
    c. The Little Mermaid.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    6. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and U.S. Navy diver was murder ed by:
    a. Captain Kid.
    b. Charles Lindberg.
    c. Mother Teresa.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    7. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
    a. Scooby Doo.
    b. The Tooth Fairy.
    c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
    a. Richard Simmons.
    b. Grandma Moses.
    c. Michael Jordan.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    9. In 1998, the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
    a. Mr. Rogers.
    b. Hillary

    c. The World Wrestling Federation.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    10. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked and destroyed and thousands of people were killed by:
    a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd.
    b. The Supreme Court of Florida.
    c. Mr. Bean.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    11. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
    a. Enron.
    b. The Lutheran Church.
    c. The NFL.
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnap ped and murdered by:
    a. Bonny and Clyde.
    b. Captain Kangaroo
    c. Billy Graham.

    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40.

    Nope, no patterns anywhere to justify profiling!
    #56     Jan 7, 2003
  7. oh i'm sure numnutt josh will have an answer
    #57     Jan 7, 2003
  8. Josh_B


    Thanks for also pointing it out, I saw it a bit late, tried to delete but it seems there is a time limit to delete/edit posts. Hopefully it only seems to effect that present page.

    good finds on the rivet max! seems to fit there well. Do you have a link to that website/pic?

    dgabriel, many retired plane depots are around the country, One can find frame/skin parts for just about any plane out there.

    max question, on this pic you posted,


    is there a pic than pans out? One that places the wheel wreck on the site somewhere. Nothing close to it appears on any of the other pics either on details or standard, or general color background. Maybe we missed something. Where is the crane in this pic? It could be doubtful that the terrorists extended the landing gears before crash, and that the rubber survived the 2500 degrees fire, pulverization, vaporization etc. The whole fuselage seem to have disappeared either into the building or evaporated on impact (according to gov't talk) and wheels tacked inside underneath made it, but engines disappeared.? But again stranger thinks have happened.

    TM Direct! yeah good points, there are so many bs out there and most of it is garbage. I thought exactly the same when I saw the first pics recently and it's great to see so many opinions and pics from many different sides

    and why the heck the French got involved in this?... maybe another thread can take this on reasons why or why not.

    Longshot, hehe that would really be the conspiracy/hoax of the century.

    Good posts folks, great info.

    #58     Jan 7, 2003
  9. Josh_B


    I was about to say that it was much appreciated that this thread has been kept civil and we have kept personal attacks and name calling at bay...

    #59     Jan 7, 2003
  10. I don't know who posted it but i went to the link and that urban legend thing was pretty eye opening....there were tons of pictures and stories that were dispelled and in some cases not dispelled.....i think the point of any conspiracy is this:

    in this information age it is almost impossible to concoct some of these things.....especially when you throw in the likes of the enquirer, jerry springer and the book keep everyone quiet would be really hard, especially when you can be rewarded with $$$$ for your story...It's fun to discuss though....maybe for the new year we can start a new thread:

    WHO REALLY SHOT JFK????????????

    #60     Jan 7, 2003