Huge majority of you here are losers? Agree?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by tangentShot, Dec 17, 2013.

  1. Again, no.

    An indicator cannot make you lose.

    A signal cannot make you lose.

    An alert cannot make you lose.

    Traders lose because they play a "rigged" game where the house (here the broker) always wins in the long run, like in a casino.

    The only way to win in the long run is to beat the spread and/or commissions, period.

    Of course brokers will tell that traders lose because they have no discipline...they are under-capitalized...they cut their winnings short....bla bla bla bla....

    THIS IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!
     
    #131     Dec 17, 2013
  2. cmb

    cmb Guest


    true, it was definitely an assumption. I was using perhaps a small percentage of people here who I follow and know their stuff to take the other side of his argument ;)

    aren't you on vacation? you should'nt be here on this thread man!
     
    #132     Dec 17, 2013
  3. I'm sure I will still sit at my computer watching the whole day, not taking advantage of what automation offers :D

     
    #133     Dec 17, 2013
  4. 1 - Keep your commish minimal. That means 2 things: not only finding a low cost platform, but also finding a low cost system.
    2 - A low cost system will, almost by definition, be one that allows you to relax, because it protects you from overtrading.
    3 - A relaxed trader makes money. A nervous trader loses.

    Rule 3 is just a variation on Billie Holiday: them that haz, gits. Simple, actually.

    2 can be anything: a low frequency system, an automated system that overall (including commish) wins, a manual system cuz you can't be bothered automating it or it can't be anyway, whatevs. The point is to get to 3, by whatever means necessary.
     
    #134     Dec 17, 2013
  5. Yes, of course the majority are losers. Hardly anyone makes it at this game in the long run.
    Anyone can claim to be a profitable trader online.
    You need evidence.
    Look for realtime calls and trading statements that stand up to the scrutiny of technology.
    There's a few consistently profitable traders here;
    Sellindexvol and Lescor.
    Probably using concepts that none of us are even aware of.
    What's the point of this thread?...
     
    #135     Dec 17, 2013
  6. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    And doing so is one of the primary reasons why so many fail.
     
    #136     Dec 17, 2013
  7. I stick to SPY ETF for trading. and I use options for hedging.

    I do quite well actually.

    I do not day trade but I might have an active trading day depending on the circumstances. Typically I do not actively trade on a day to day basis but I do risk management and modeling on a day to day basis, (Stress testing, etc..)


    The majority of my time is spent planning the next trade and managing/monitoring the positions.
     
    #137     Dec 17, 2013
  8. This thread is only about 2 days old & we have overwhelming response. Some are outright insulting which is fine because it simply indicates how these responders were brought up by their mothers or they were simply uneducated.

    The purpose of this thread is to use responses here as input for a social experiment.

    If it is true that more than 90% of traders are net losers, than it could imply that the majority who replied but didn't admit their loses in this thread fills that 90%.

    Studies results:
    >90% net losers.
    <10% net winners.

    Thread responses:
    <10% admitted to having a net lost.
    >90% claim to be winners.

    Math is beautiful. Thank you all for responding. :)

     
    #138     Dec 18, 2013
  9. a5519

    a5519

    A fool thinks himself to be wise ...
     
    #139     Dec 18, 2013
  10. mspkash1

    mspkash1

    mind listing the other 9? :D
     
    #140     Dec 18, 2013