HowardCohodas Index Options Credit Spread Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by HowardCohodas, Dec 30, 2010.

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  1. Just keeping me on my toes? :)
     
    #601     Mar 10, 2011
  2. Not sure I would say "great" risk/reward but good luck, we do seem to be heading lower overall.
     
    #602     Mar 10, 2011
  3. Ya your right i was thinking if it was an iron condor with the puts it would have been a great risk reward. Either way i closed them out @ .95. Taking profit when i can.

    I would like to hear other stratagies others use during times of higher volitality. I do think we are heading into a time of more turbulence.

    Good luck all.
     
    #603     Mar 10, 2011
  4. What specific fly or other structure would you rather have put on instead?
     
    #604     Mar 10, 2011
  5. I do not follow the RUT really but with the bearish bias of the poster, the bear call spread was his choice and it worked out well given the sell off today. RUT down 17 points so that premium must have been cut in half.
     
    #605     Mar 10, 2011
  6. Good trade. With increased volatility all it really means right off is that I would be wary of simply going long calls or puts outright since higher vols can become lower. Using OTM put calendars, bear put spreads, riskier slightly OTM short straddles, or even put ratio backspreads for larger expected moves are all unqiue ways to be bearish taking volatility into account.
     
    #606     Mar 10, 2011
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Selling call spreads are terrible ways to play the short side of the market. If you are going to sell the OTM call spread in the RUT, buy the same debit amount for an OTM put spread. Your risk is basically the same, but instead of making 1.65 you can make 10 pts. Risk to reward is much better. So your net debit is zero, your risk is almost the same amount as selling the call spread alone and your upside is 5 times greater.
     
    #607     Mar 10, 2011
  8. Probably goes w/o saying that you won't get as much bang-for-the-buck on the spread you buy, because of the skew/smile.
     
    #608     Mar 10, 2011
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Come again? You are long a downside put spread at no cost. There's plenty of bang for the buck (10 pts). It's a no brainer. It will absolutely outperform the short call spread 100 times out of a 100.
     
    #609     Mar 10, 2011
  10. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    Sure, but I'm talking about if we get a selloff in the market. Both spreads are going to blow out on a move to the long call strike. I just never understood the idea of trying to capture a 1.65 credit in the RUT when the index can selloff 50 pts in a month.
     
    #610     Mar 10, 2011
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