HowardCohodas Index Options Credit Spread Trading Journal

Discussion in 'Journals' started by HowardCohodas, Dec 30, 2010.

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  1. See response above to sellindexvol66. The only way I can use your cautions is to actually experience them even if only with back testing. I did use data from 2005 through 2009. But I did not see the difficulties you describe. Could you narrow down the search space by telling me the underlying instrument, your trades and the series you traded. Otherwise I am unable to use your experience effectively.
     
    #271     Feb 21, 2011
  2. Stok

    Stok

    Is PoT only available in TOS?
     
    #272     Feb 21, 2011
  3. Yes. But you can also use delta as a good proxy. I like PoT because it directly represents my chances of having to close the spread rather than let it expire worthless.
     
    #273     Feb 21, 2011
  4. If you open a ThinkOrSwim paper account you can see the PoT reading alongside the delta on an option chain. My observation has been that the PoT of 20% is approximately a delta of 0.10.
     
    #274     Feb 21, 2011
  5. Stok

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    Ok, I do see you use it as one of your criteria to enter a spread as well. I know Delta, but from your experience, what ratio seems to be about right of Delta to PoT?
     
    #275     Feb 21, 2011
  6. For the volatility strategy I use (Fixed volatility per expiration date) a PoT of 20% is equivalent to a delta of approximately .10. However it is not symmetric with PUT and CALL sides and I don't know how close the relationship holds between PoT and delta in higher volatility regimes.

    P.S.
    I just used ThinkBack to view PoT in June 2010 when $VIX was about twice what it is now and there a difference of about 1% delta.

    October of 2008 when $VIX was 4 times what it is today, 20% PoT was equivalent to .07.

    It would seem that PoT takes into account implied volatility differently than delta.
     
    #276     Feb 21, 2011
  7. I think the "Fixed volatility per expiration date" calculation for PoT might be just statistical/historical volatility. I also observed several instances where the delta was a little far from expected as compared with PoT. If my theory is correct you'd see more of a difference with puts than same-strike-distance calls because IV is generally skewed with puts. Delta uses IV.

    Since PoT is proprietary, who knows what goes into it.
     
    #277     Feb 21, 2011
  8. Stok

    Stok

    Can you open a paper account without giving all your personal information? I searched around and seems not ?!?
     
    #278     Feb 21, 2011
  9. I don't recall. However, I paper traded for 5 months before funding my account without any hassle.
     
    #279     Feb 21, 2011
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