HowardCohodas Index Options Credit Spread Trading Journal

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  1. Obviously you monitor PoT (how do you calculate this?).

    What has to happen to "make the final decision" of closing a spread or letting it go on and expire?.

    With spreads 1 day to expiration, every metric is very "jumpy". How do you decide when/if to do the closing (bad) or let expire (good)?.
     
    #151     Jan 20, 2011
  2. I covered this in the post at the top of page 20.

    If PoT is less than 10% (7% for those more cautions) I will let it expire.

    I make this decision between 30 and 45 minutes before trading closes. If the day starts out with PoT near my limit I will watch throughout the day. If the overnight futures show an adverse move, I will watch at opening of trading.
     
    #152     Jan 20, 2011
  3. Howard

    I think OPTION COACH had mentioned it. IRON CONDORS really only work with reliability in a bull market, with VIX in his case below VIX 20 and in my estimation below VIX 22. When you are in a bull trend as you are now with VIX 15 your Iron condors should work well. But you are going to get hit and wipe out your account when the VIX rises to around VIX 26 and above. You can´t trade them all the time, and succeed. The risks grow exponentially as the VIX rises. These are just rule of thumb experiences.

    What this means in practice, the real world is that Iron Condors which are non-directional as you say, are of limited application. You don´t use them all the time. The majority of the time you play Vertical Credit Spreads in a directional play. Thus if you have to predict direction, then you might as well straight buy options which is safer.
     
    #153     Jan 20, 2011
  4. Howard
    A little tidbit from one years experience but a lot of trades in weeklies compared to slower monthly trades.

    Thursday and Friday of expiration week, 3% deviation covers BEAR CALL SPREADS and 4% deviation covers Bull Put Spreads fine. So if your spreads on a Thursday outside of those deviations, you are probably safe to go to expiration.
     
    #154     Jan 20, 2011
  5. My preference is for a metric that incorporates volatility.
     
    #155     Jan 20, 2011
  6. [​IMG]

    21 JAN 2010 Trading Plan

    Opportunity - Takeoffs are optional
    Column: IC
    Spread #61 is unpaired. Opportunity to form an Iron Condor.

    Column: Spread P/L
    Roll opportunities:
    Spread #65


    Jeopardy - Landings are mandatory
    Column: Probability of Touching
    No cautions. No warnings

    Column: Days Until Expiration
    No cautions. No warnings

    Column: At Risk P/L
    No cautions. No warnings

    New Opportunity
    Funds will be released from quarantine today.
     
    #156     Jan 21, 2011
  7. I like your systematized repetitive process to look at the whole picture of your position and possible actions/dangers/opportunities every day.:cool:
     
    #157     Jan 21, 2011
  8. Thank you.

    Can you tell I'm an engineer? :eek:
     
    #158     Jan 21, 2011
  9. 21 JAN 2010 Expiration Report

    PHP:
    NDX Iron Condor 15 - Yield 63.8%
       
    35   CALL   4.2%   Expired
       33   PUT    8.1
    %   Rolled
       48   PUT    7.6
    %   Rolled
       52   PUT    1.0
    %   Closed Error in entering spread
       64   PUT    5.3
    %   Rolled
       70   PUT    5.9
    %   Rolled
       74   PUT    5.6
    %   Rolled
       78   PUT    4.1
    %   Expired
    PHP:
    RUT Iron Condor 16 - Yield 30.5%
       
    50   CALL   4.2%   Expired
       34   PUT    8.0
    %   Rolled
       55   PUT    6.6
    %   Rolled
       77   PUT    4.1
    %   Expired
    PHP:
    SPX Iron Condor 17 - Yield 26.6%
       
    53   CALL   3.6%   Expired
       36   PUT    7.7
    %   Rolled
       69   PUT    7.5
    %   Expired
    PHP:
    Total closed spreads:       72
    Profitable spreads
    :         68
    Average profit per spread
    6.0%
    Unprofitable spreads:        4
    Average loss per spread
    :   9.3%

    Percentage Profitable:      94%
    Average Life (Days)         19

    How were spreads closed
    ?
    Rolled spreads:             25
    Exited spreads 
    (last day):   9
    Expired spreads
    :            38
    PHP:
    Total closed Iron Condors:         20
    Profitable Iron Condors
    :           19
    Average profit per Iron Condors
    22.9%
    Unprofitable Iron Condors:          1
    Average loss per Iron Condors
    :   20.3%
     
    #159     Jan 22, 2011
  10. rew

    rew

    I presume that you've back tested this system against some of the more notorious crashes, notably in the fall of 2008 and March 2009, when it would be necessary to stop out of the bull put spreads. What sort of results do you get for those periods? Did you use actual option prices at those times (with high IV and wide bid/ask spreads) or estimates?
     
    #160     Jan 25, 2011
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