Howard Schultz - keeping the lefties sleepless and twitchy in Seattle

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Jan 29, 2019.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    No doubt, this guy is going nowhere but will be an anti-democrat advertisement.
     
    #11     Jan 29, 2019
  2. smallfil

    smallfil

    For what it is worth, Howard Schultz just released a book and an extreme liberal heckler was attacking him verbally. He went on to say that he cannot run as a Democrat because the party has been taken over by extreme liberals and their positions are way to the left! To run, he would have to take positions that are more liberal but, not enough to pull conservatives away from Trump. He will get RINO votes because big business interests like him have their allies in Republican RINO Senators and Congressmen as long as he keeps lining their pockets!
     
    #12     Jan 29, 2019
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  3. And if Shultz can get rino votes, he is also swimming in waters where he will also be able to get some moderate dems and some moderate independents. Something for everyone to worry about regardless of party. Trump is already losing some of his non-hardcore base. If he can fix that, then he might want to start doing that- last week has not been good but he is free to fix that if he wants. If he can't, well then, maybe it is not a bad thing for the rinos and dem-lite to have another candidate to vote for who is not a dem just to muck up the dem's game rather than stay home.

    As I have said a couple days, I am just playing the game of "what-if" for a day or two while Shultz is having his day or two of fame- but would need to see a lot more to even bother with it. I saw a clip on TV where lefties where jeering at him. I have no reason yet to believe whatsoever that he can handle that sort of thing for more than a week.

    I knew a fellow in Maine who was the Chief Justice of the State Supreme Court. It was almost like being in the Vatican with the Pope whenever he was in the room. The amount of absolute deference to everything he said was surreal. This had gone on for decades for him. Then one day, he announced that he was going to run for Governor. Heh, that lasted about a week, maybe two. Once he went to a couple meetings with the locals and saw new england grass roots democracy in action- people whose ancestors had overthrown the king- he declared that he had made a rash decision based on emotion after 9/11. Funny dat. He thought he was special- problem is the voters had never heard of him and did not know that he was supposed to be special. OOPS! That was his fifteen minutes or fame.
     
    #13     Jan 29, 2019
  4. Everyone hates the two party system until someone comes along who might actual pose a threat, however small a threat, and the ranks get tightened up right quick like.
     
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    #14     Jan 29, 2019
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  5. Maybe we just don't like him. His class of monopolistic billionaires are really something special. They send our jobs overseas or replace us with H1Bs, mock our values and traditions, inundate our children with violence and sexualization, etc. We ask one little thing, a big concrete wall like they have at their estates, not to mention Israel, and they freak out. AOC and her 70% tax bracket don't bother MAGA-land all that much. A lot of people voted for Trump just to give the Man the middle finger. AOC serves the same purpose.
     
    #15     Jan 29, 2019
  6. He may or may not be all that, but anyone willing to ask democrats, hey, how ya gonna pay for all that scores a few points in my book.
     
    #16     Jan 29, 2019
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Howard Schultz 'freaked out' by Democratic backlash to independent presidential run, rethinks effort
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...ependent-presidential-run-rethinks-effort.amp

    Howard Schultz is getting burned, like a bad cup of Starbucks coffee and it may force him to rethink his presidential aspirations.

    The billionaire and former Starbucks CEO has told advisors that he was shocked by the stridency of the attacks made by Democrats following the announcement he was seriously considering running for president as an independent in the 2020 election, and is now said to be looking more closely at whether he wants to go through with the effort, the FOX Business Network has learned.

    Schultz has been the recipient in recent days of an angry backlash by leading Democrats after he announced he was exploring running as an independent last Sunday during a 60 Minutes interview. Schultz once described himself as a lifelong Democrat but said he now may break with his old party because he feels it has moved too far to the left on spending and taxes, while promoting programs that will saddle future generations with enormous debt.

    The reason for the rapid, and at times, nasty Democratic response is less about what Schultz stands for, and more about how he might impact the 2020 election: If he runs for president as an independent, Schultz is expected to draw votes from the Democratic nominee because of his progressive social positions, thus aiding Republican President Donald Trump’s re-election effort when the president suffers from chronically abysmal approval ratings.

    Among Schultz’s most prominent critics has been fellow billionaire and former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, himself a possible 2020 Democratic contender. Bloomberg, who also once considered an independent presidential bid, issued a statement that said if Schultz goes that route it will “just split the anti-Trump vote and end up re-electing the president.”

    The intense nature of the criticism stunned Schultz, people close to him tell FOX Business. While he expected some carping, he did not foresee the ferocity of some of the vitriol, particularly from the party’s top officials and operatives. In addition to the barrage of criticism from leading Democrats, Schultz was also blindsided by the grass roots blowback, including being heckled during an event in New York City to promote his new book.

    One person with knowledge of Schultz’s reaction to the attacks said he is “freaking out” about the criticism; another person described Schultz as being “surprised” by the severity of the Democratic Party backlash.

    Schultz advisor Steve Schmidt didn’t return telephone calls or messages for comments.

    What people who have spoken with Schultz agree on is that he is now readjusting his message about the likelihood of an independent presidential campaign. During the 60 Minutes interview, Schultz seemed to be leaning in the direction of entering the race, stating the he is “seriously thinking of running for president…as a centrist independent.”

    But a senior advisor to Schultz told FOX Business on Thursday that Schultz’s decision is far from final—and he won’t make up his mind until at least the summer. This person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said Schultz is weighing several factors including how people outside the “Washington to New York Amtrak corridor” react to his ideas during events as he sells his new book, "From the Ground Up: A Journey to Reimagine the Promise of America." Schultz’s memoir describes his working-class upbringing, business career, and the philosophy that underpins his beef with the political extremes he believes control both parties to the detriment of the country and may prod him to run for president.

    The advisor added that Schultz has studied one of the barriers to entry for any independent candidate: The laborious process of getting on all the state ballots and he said Schultz believes that won’t present a significant obstacle. The bigger issues for Schultz is whether his message will resonate and whether he will win.

    “What Howard needs to figure out still is whether there’s a need for him to be in the political process,” the advisor said. “Then he needs to figure out if he can win.”

    Schultz, 65, is a New York City native who grew up in subsidized housing in the borough of Brooklyn. He went to college on a football scholarship, joined Starbucks in the early-1980s and was soon named its marketing chief, before rising to the position of chief executive. As CEO, he transformed the coffeehouse chain into one of the country’s fastest growing companies.

    He left Starbucks for good in 2018, but was already commenting on political issues before then—in 2016 he endorsed Hillary Clinton over Trump in the 2016 presidential election—foreshadowing a career in politics.

    Schultz has been a vocal critic of Trump, mainly of his fiscal policies as they relate to the ballooning budget deficit, but he has made his biggest headlines recently opposing the Democratic Party’s embrace of progressive causes, such as universal health care and efforts to ramp up taxes on the rich.

    He has said the major reason for his possible third-party candidacy is that most Americans don’t agree with the extremes of both parties that currently control the political debate.

    That was the message he presented when he announced his possible candidacy as an independent. The message he got back from his old friends in the Democratic Party was swift and direct: Don’t do it because you will be messing with our best chance to win in 2020.
     
    #17     Feb 1, 2019
  8. elderado

    elderado

    In all seriousness... to have accomplished so much and this is a surprise? He is still stuck on stupid. I can't even think of ONE dumbass on this forum that didn't see the backlash coming.

    Couldn't he have asked some "paid political consultants" beforehand?
     
    #18     Feb 1, 2019
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  9. Howard just put his first real live trade on after being successful in demo.

    We know the feeling.
     
    #19     Feb 1, 2019
  10. smallfil

    smallfil

    I have sent Howard Schultz tweets urging him to give the Democrats what they want which is not to run but, use his monies to advance his causes by media advertising. And not to contribute to the Democrat Party as well! I figure him being a thorn in the Democrat side and calling all of them out on their policies will do even greater damage during the campaign season. It will remind normal people who abhor Socialism, Communism or Islamism what the Democrat Party stands for now! And he can easily spend tens of millions of dollars to do so! Monies that would not wind up in the pockets of Hillary Clinton or the DNC!
     
    #20     Feb 1, 2019