Howard Dean is insane

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ARogueTrader, Nov 2, 2003.

  1. There is a large difference between the extreme religious right, and a moderate Republican.

    Bush ran as a moderate Republican, but pandered to the extreme religious right to gain votes.

    The extreme religious right is not all that happy with Bush, and some of his moderate actions.
     
    #11     Nov 2, 2003
  2. I name the republican party.

    All these groups are seeking changes in the constitution and in spite of the fact that they vote republican, the party has never tried to make a constitutional amendment to placate this crowd.
    regards
     
    #12     Nov 2, 2003
  3. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    I didn't ask you which party you are registered with, I asked you who you voted for in the last three elections and of course you dodge the question. And yes my friend, who you voted for tells you precisely who you are since in fact the whole purpose of our nation's electoral system is to place people in power who speak on behalf of our beliefs. Who represent our voice. If you voted for Gore in the last election, I can tell you what you are definitely NOT and that is a republican. No republican would have ever voted even with a gun to their head for that man. He is soooo far to the left of even the most moderate of republicans. So while it's true maybe you are part libertarian, part liberal, part green party, I can definitely say you are not even the slightest bit conservative if you voted for Gore. Nice try and thanks again for dodging the question. You don't need to answer anymore, I already got it.
     
    #13     Nov 2, 2003
  4. msfe

    msfe

    Bush says God chose him to lead his nation

    Book reveals how President's religious and political beliefs are entwined - and claims he did pray with Blair

    Paul Harris in New York
    Sunday November 2, 2003
    The Observer

    President George W. Bush stood before a cheering crowd at a Dallas Christian youth centre last week, and told them about being 'born again' as a Christian.

    'If you change their heart, then they change their behaviour. I know,' he said, referring to his own conversion, which led to him giving up drinking.

    Behind Bush were two banners. 'King of Kings', proclaimed one. 'Lord of Lords', said the other. The symbolism of how fervent Christianity has become deeply entwined with the most powerful man on the planet could not have been stronger.

    Few US Presidents have been as openly religious as Bush. Now a new book has lifted the lid on how deep those Christian convictions run. It will stir up controversy at a time when the administration is keen to portray its 'war on terror' as non-religious.

    The book, which depicts a President who prays each day and believes he is on a direct mission from God, will give ammunition to critics who claim Bush's administration is heavily influenced by extremist Christians.

    Bush is already under fire for allowing the appointment of General William Boykin to head the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Boykin, who speaks at evangelical Christian meetings, once said the war on terror was a fight against Satan, and also told a Somali warlord that, 'My God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God and his was an idol.'

    Bush has also been accused of a 'creeping Christianisation' of federal government programmes. In September, the government made more than $60 billion available for religious charitable groups. Critics say the groups will be able to use the cash to promote their religion. One group that benefited from previous grants was an Iowa prison project that entitled inmates to televisions, private bathrooms and computers - in return for Christian counselling.

    Now Bush is likely to face intense scrutiny. The book, The Faith of George W. Bush, was written by Christian author Stephen Mansfield. It details numerous incidents where Bush's faith has been shown to be at the centre of his political thinking.

    Among Mansfield's revelations is his insistence that Bush and Tony Blair have prayed together at a private meeting at Camp David. Blair has previously denied this.

    Mansfield, however, says that, while there were no witnesses, aides were left in little doubt as to what had happened. He told The Observer: 'There is no question they have shared scripture and prayed together.'

    The book also shows that in the lead-up to announcing his candidacy for the presidency, Bush told a Texan evangelist that he had had a premonition of some form of national disaster happening.

    Bush said to James Robinson: 'I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it.'

    In another incident, Mansfield recounts how, on Palm Sunday last year, Bush was flying back from El Salvador aboard the presidential jet Air Force One and seemed to be destined to miss church.

    However, knowing that Bush hated to miss a service, some officials suggested they worship in the air. Bush agreed, and soon 40 officials were crammed into the plane's conference room. The service was led by National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, while the lesson was read by close Bush aide Karen Hughes.

    The author also proves anecdotes about Bush that had previously been dismissed as false. Rumours that he had prayed with a young soldier who had lost a hand in Iraq were thought to be myth, but Mansfield tracked down witnesses and a hospital chaplain who said that Bush had prayed with the man, ending by kissing him on the forehead and telling him he loved him. 'For me, that sums up Bush's beliefs. He really believes Jesus is taken up in his heart and soul,' Mansfield said.

     
    #14     Nov 2, 2003
  5. Who I vote for is really none of your business.

    Yes, there were Republicans who voted for Gore.

    Your black and white thinking must be pathological.
     
    #15     Nov 2, 2003
  6. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    What on God's green earth are you talking about? Bush is a devout Christian. He is very dedicated to his faith and has been for a large majority of his life. Bush has also been pro-life as long as I can remember. In fact, I can't remember him saying anything remotely to the contrary. So how in the hell did he pander to the religious right. Do you even read what you are typing? He ran as a moderate in the primary election because every presidential candidate runs as close to the center in the general election and they run to their party's base in the primary. But to pander means that you are going after a certain group of people who you do not agree with for the sake of getting their vote. This is not the case with Bush. I say this again, he is a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN and a DEVOUT PRO-LIFER and has been his whole life. How is this pandering?
     
    #16     Nov 2, 2003
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    #17     Nov 2, 2003
  8. The religious right has more than one issue. Bush's stance on stem cell research was not compatible with the extreme religious right, and he was denounced by those who were 100% opposed to any use of stem cells for research.
     
    #18     Nov 2, 2003
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    This I can tell you for sure. If they voted for Gore then they do not know the meaning of the word republican. They might think they are one but what good is that if they don't know the meaning of the word. Al Gore would have enacted the largest tax increases in our countries history, would have pushed his abortion agenda, and would not have supported the war on terrorism and our current foreign policy initiatives. Just so you know, the top THREE issues and most important issues to republicans is one - tax cuts- two - supporting the rights of unborn children- and three- the war on terror. All three of these things Gore is against. hence I will say this one more time, if you or anyone else voted for Gore, YOU ARE NOT A REPUBLICAN!
     
    #19     Nov 2, 2003
  10. Gore is against the war on terror? Since when?

    Gore is against tax cuts on principle? Hardly. He favors cutting taxes of the lower and middle income.

    The rights of unborn children is a religious issue, as a fetus has yet to be classified scientifcally, or legally as a child.
     
    #20     Nov 2, 2003