How was Israel created?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by RCG Trader, Nov 15, 2012.

  1. Lucrum

    Lucrum


    W H E R E - I S - Y O U R - J O U R N A L - RCG ?



    Or has yet again your ego driven mouth written a check your slow intellect and factual personal history simple cannot cash?
     
    #21     Nov 24, 2012
  2. The palestinians declined statehood (and do so now).
    They decided to start a war in 48 and lost boo hoo hoo.
    They started another war in 67 lost again, boo hoo hoo.

    Now the stupid fvckers think they deserve the land they lost in 2 wars and the elimination of Israel.

    That's like mexico losing the mexican american war and demanding we surrender all of california , new mexico ,texas, arizona and declare their aim to push their border all the way north to canada from washington to maine, completely wiping out the united states.

    Does that sound rational to you?
     
    #22     Nov 24, 2012
  3. That's an unusual and I think untenable conclusion. The Jews after the British partition of Palestine in 1947 declared a the State of Israel. What followed were skirmishes between the Jews and the Palestinians which was quickly followed by declaration of war on the Jews by Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. The 600,000 Jewish residents of the erstwhile Palestine area defeated the combined armies of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. About 600,000 Palestinian Arabs fled or were expelled from Israel as a result of the war, establishing refugee camps in the West Bank and Gaza. (At the same time, a similar number of Jews were expelled from Arab states with and their property and assets seized, but have you ever seen them lobbing rockets into those lands or pressing reparation claims?) The Palestinians never accepted this outcome and the likely won't for another 100-200 years. Despite receiving many billions in aid from other Arab states and Europe, they have been barely able to improve their lot in the last 65 years as they embrace a militant culture of nihilism and genocide that competes with the needs for basic state building, like schools, infrastructure, etc. They have not established basic institutions such as law, justice, proper policing, etc. Yes, the lands they occupy suck, and Israel controls much of the water in the general area, but these guys have not even made lemonade with their lemons; the have made suicide bombers instead.

    The Jews created Israel, not the USA.

    You need to both read up on the history of Zionism, as well as the history of the land once referred to as Palestine.
     
    #23     Nov 24, 2012
  4. jem

    jem

    If you have been to the national history museum in mexico city... you will see mexico still declares California (at least it did when I was there) to be its territory...I do not recall where the line was with texas... but I think they claimed texas too.
     
    #24     Nov 24, 2012
  5. There was a war, the Arabs lost, they refuse to recognize that. Simple.

    Once, when I was a teenager, my brother came home all excited because of something he'd seen hanging with his friends in Times Square. A large black man was being led into a taxi by his girlfriend, while two Arabs held a third one back, a little guy yelling "I want to die with honor!"
    He broke free and started pummeling the black guy, who turned around, grabbed him by the collar, and started banging him against the side of the taxi, yelling "Why you wanna fuck with me?"
    My brother became part of the crowd watching this drama, standing right beside a Maserati with the engine running, hemmed in by the crowd. The Maserati belonged to the Arabs. It had no one in it. All my brother really wanted was to hop in and take it for a spin...
    But, getting back to the drama, the little Arab was pulled away by his buddies as he lost consciousness. A cop came out of the crowd, showed his badge, and told the black guy to get in the taxi and get out of there. He'd seen the whole thing, and was making sure to separate them and get him away from trouble.
    The little Arab was put in the back seat of the Maserati, his two friends got in front, and they began to drive away. The little guy woke up, saw where he was, and started banging away at the windows trying to get out of the car, yelling again "I want to die with honor!"

    If that ain't a parable for the Mideast, I don't know what is.
     
    #25     Nov 24, 2012
  6. jem

    jem

    as you saw with google... the backstory behind the formation state of Isreal is very slanted depending on the the bias of the author and their perspective.

    I have read a few sides and do not know who is telling the full story. Was it a filled with potential palis? filled with Jews after everyone else left, virtually empty. Purchased fairly? lots of questions... lots of biased answers.

    The only thing I surmise to be the true story is that knowing politicians... I tend to believe the authors whos say that behind the seen politics and wall street type money got the job done in Moscow, London and Washington.
     
    #26     Nov 24, 2012
  7. Best answer yet! Its as good as a Deed or a charter written thousands of years ago. :)
     
    #27     Nov 25, 2012
  8. Who started the Mexican American War?

    Edit: I would agree that it is irrational for Palestine to decline statehood, however. They cannot ever win any kind of conflict against Israel.
     
    #28     Nov 25, 2012
  9. Pretty much, superior firepower took their land from them, and they cannot accept it. My question is, does anyone really expect that they will?

    And if so, why should they?
     
    #29     Nov 25, 2012
  10. I'm sure they would have been completely happy had their cousins won any war that they started , unfortunately they didn't but that doesn't keep these stupid fvckers from trying to continue the war through terrorism.

    They hide their missile sites in hospitals schools etc, teach their children how to wear bomb vests.

    Their elected leadership is a terrorist group.

    The Israelis should simply clear out the entire occupied territory and the easiest way to do that would be turn off the water and electricity and let nature take it's course.
     
    #30     Nov 25, 2012