How to Trade Bollinger Bands

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by riskfreetrading, Feb 18, 2008.

  1. I would agree with you that BB isn't as useful for day traders - but most people don't day trade, or at the very least diversify over time.
     
    #21     Feb 23, 2008
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    It does Audio;
    & PRICE can go sideways for a long, long time also.

    Have stuck BB on volume for a long time also;
    not currently doing that now. But helpful till you get that in gut

    Mr Bollinger had some excellant interviews back in ACTIVE TRADER MAG years ago. His brillance comments included ''stock are like sheep;
    they move in groups/sectors.''[Generally speaking,not infallable]
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    He enjoys teaching also, runs Bollinger Capital Management;
    a likable young man.:cool:
     
    #22     Feb 23, 2008
  3. #23     Feb 23, 2008
  4. This is what I have:

    Trend following system: Simulated trading using 30 years IBM stock daily closing price data, $ 100000 initial capital and 5 % risk. This method buys if closing price value is greater than the 60 day moving average value plus 2 standard deviations and sells if closing price value is less than the 60 day moving average value. Position size = (5 % of account equity) / (10 x 20 period average true range). Long trades only. Slippage is assumed to be 0.5 %.

    Number of trades 54
    Profit after subtracting $ 10.00 commission, slippage per transaction: $ 195366
    Greatest draw down is 0.1076 (10.76 per cent).
    Cumulative Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) is 6.51 per cent.
    Instantaneously Compounding Annual Growth Rate (ICAGR) is 3.61 per cent.
    Annually Compounding Annual Growth Rate (ACAGR) is 3.68 per cent.
    Information Ratio is 0.35

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    Buy Low Sell High system: Simulated trading using 30 years IBM stock daily closing price data, $ 100000 initial capital and $ 5000 risk per trade. This system buys if closing price value is less than the 10 day moving average value minus two standard deviations. Position is sold if closing price value is greater than the 10 day moving average value plus two standard deviations. This system stops a loss at $ 5000. Long position trading only.

    Number of trades 92
    Total profit $ 55584
    Profit after subtracting $ 100 commission & slippage per trade: $ 46384
    Greatest draw down is 0.1894 (18.94 %)

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    Another Buy Low Sell High system: Simulated trading using 30 years IBM stock daily closing price data, $ 100000 initial capital and $ 5000 risk per trade. This system buys if closing price value is less than the 10 day moving average value minus 0.5 standard deviations. Position is sold at session opening 4 days after purchase if there is a profit or after 8 days. Notice the logical problem, there is no way to know what the opening price is until after it is reported. Slippage estimated at 0.5 %. Long position trading only.

    Number of trades 579
    Total profit $ 200272
    Profit after subtracting $ 10 commission per trade: $ 194482
    Greatest draw down is 0.0814 (8.14 %)
    Cumulative Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) is 6.29 per cent.

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    These simulations generally do not employ all available capital. I observe large amounts of cash remaining in the account as trades are simulated. The risk level used in these simulations is 5 %. I consider use of 5 % risk per security to be unsafe. Trading a number of securities in a portfolio and using lower risk levels might show greater returns and lesser draw downs.
     
    #24     Feb 23, 2008
  5. Personally I've always viewed BB's and their variations a distracting statement of the obvious.

    If they help you...great. If you're profitable all the better.
     
    #25     Feb 23, 2008
  6. If you find them obvious you must see something I do not see as obvious. What's the obvious if I may ask. Thanks.
     
    #26     Feb 23, 2008
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    What common denominators do you see during these three phases?
     
    #27     Feb 23, 2008
  8. You! :D

    For seriously now. I will think about your question. I guess what you have in mind is rising prices, but the last phase is not really rising prices as they would retreat towards the moving average and possibly go below it.
     
    #28     Feb 24, 2008
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    There you go, you said it, that's the money making method staring squarely at your eyes.
     
    #29     Feb 24, 2008
  10. But there are problems with this. First the 3rd phase may lead to losses. The most important problem though is that in hindsight, this looks good. But what guarantees that when we are before phase 1, that there will be a phase 1, then a phase 2 and then a phase 3. In addition how to separate the phases. So where the rules, and the checks and balances?

    So my point is: yes things look nice in hindsight, but what are the rules to follow that will guide one during the whole process and with overall success. Remember the question is to trade them. But I think I understand your point (and it is valid one) that there is a possibly systematic progression of a trend. Did I get this point right?
     
    #30     Feb 24, 2008