how to start futures trading (emini)

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by kashili, May 3, 2014.

  1. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Who said anything about over-leveraging? We were talking about one (1) contract. Of course, there are several simultaneous sub-threads going on in this thread, so you must have stepped through a dimensional barrier.
     
    #101     May 8, 2014
  2. k p

    k p

    I tend to forgive so you still have a chance to get in my good books! LOL

    In all fairness, I completely understand how you say its not easy. The chart at the end of the day just doesn't look the same as it does in real time. But in trading you never know, you just have a statistical edge that you have to act on every time without fear or emotion. Most can't, and hence why I said that you are always your biggest problem. But none of this means that the technique can't be learned and applied, even to a small account, for consistent daily returns allowing a person to live off their trading income.
     
    #102     May 8, 2014
  3. Surprise

    Surprise

    Trading 1 ES contract with a 6K account , that's over leveraging . Wasn't that the whole idea ?
     
    #103     May 8, 2014
  4. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    It's not over-leveraging with a thoroughly-tested and consistently-profitable trading plan.
    Do you have one?

    In any case, the OP never mentioned the ES.
     
    #104     May 8, 2014
  5. Surprise

    Surprise

    Rofl .
    Its over leveraging when the Vix is at 13.5 - low - , and your whole account is just = 5 Daily ATR ! If thats not over leveraging then what it is ?!
     
    #105     May 8, 2014
  6. Surprise

    Surprise

    He said emini , so it doesn't make a difference whether he meant NQ or ES , the NQ daily range is bigger and in $ terms it is nearly equal with the ES so we are back at : whole account = 5 Daily ATR .
     
    #106     May 8, 2014
  7. You mentioned this like 10 times in this thread.

    Tell us about your consistently profitable plan. Maybe you should work for or start a hedge fund with that strategy. You'd be a billionnaire in no time with such assured methods of profiting.

    Its sad. I have to admit, I clearly don't have this skill either of having a system that guarantees consistent profits. Most of the time I just try to make more winning trades than losing ones to get ahead by slowly growing NAV.

    So far, this thread has taught me (1) I need to learn how to time markets to perfection and (2) find a consistent winning method to trading that generates consistent profits, because clearly everyone has found the magic sauce. I am far from an elite trader thats for sure.
     
    #107     May 8, 2014
  8. Maybe these ballers day trade silver futures also.
     
    #108     May 8, 2014
  9. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    It doesn't matter if one has an appropriate trading plan. What is yours?
     
    #109     May 8, 2014
  10. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    #110     May 8, 2014