How to short the S&P using options? Day & swing puts

Discussion in 'Options' started by KCalhoun, Sep 11, 2021.

  1. Journals, trade journals, are laughable. Sounds like everyone who creates them turns out to be a curse on their performance.

    I buy/trade basic calls and puts to bet up and down. I only make one trade per day...my goal, aim, is to capture the one obvious line move you see on the chart.
    I only desire to capture the biggest fish in the pond, sea. Not a bunch of tiny one's.
     
    #101     Sep 13, 2021
  2. Love Goodfellas. I have to watch it every time it is on TV.
     
    #102     Sep 13, 2021
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  3. destriero

    destriero


    Sinatra was wrong; aerodynamics in space?
    I think you're @Tradex and begat a new (non FX) pseudonym.

    You would gain nothing from milling around MIT (CalTech says sic) unless you have the bona fides for admission.
     
    #103     Sep 13, 2021
  4. Overnight

    Overnight

    Then you haven't been listening.
     
    #104     Sep 13, 2021
  5. Assuming, someone can time the daily S&P chart well, very well....how much can they make of a % return trading futures instead of options?

    I'm completely new, ignorant, to futures. My game, my experience, my expertise are only options.
     
    #105     Sep 13, 2021
  6. destriero

    destriero

    The quickest and most money (notional) I've ever made was when posting to my dest everything journal. Closely followed by my "cyclical top" thread. Both resulted in doubles for my net liq.
     
    #106     Sep 13, 2021
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  7. destriero

    destriero

    Nobody can answer that question, but futures with stops will beat intraday singles in all scenarios other than a runaway market.
     
    #107     Sep 13, 2021
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  8. Options are explosive, is all I'm saying...if someone has good/great/expert timing.
    Everything else, only delivers marginal returns.

    Day in, Day out, everyday,...if someone can time the daily S&P chart...that's the Holy Grail. Combined with leverage/options.
     
    #108     Sep 13, 2021
  9. destriero

    destriero


    lol intraday?

    WTF does timing have to do with magnitude?
     
    #109     Sep 13, 2021
  10. Overnight

    Overnight

    K, let us test your meddle.

    I am long the MES Dec contract at 4510. I believe that I will be in profit by Last Trade Date, which is Dec 16th (17th technically, but volume-wise we want out by December 9th or 10th to not suffer a widening bid/ask spread on the future contract.)

    Is there a way for me to buy or sell a simple call/put with that expiry date, to either mitigate a loss or capture the potential gains? What would that be?
     
    #110     Sep 13, 2021