How to separate the ego from trading

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Joe Ross, Nov 13, 2009.

  1. Have you ever wondered how to get your ego out of your trading? Have you wanted to be market-centered, but find yourself consistently being self-centered?

    One thing I know for sure: your self concept has to be separate from your trading. You began as an individual long before you ever thought of trading. And you exist as an individual beyond the time you spend trading.
    When personal self-worth gets tangled up with your trading, it not only damages your concept of your personal worth, it sabotages your trading.

    You must not allow your trading errors to ruin your feelings of self-worth. You must not internalize the mistakes you make. You have to avoid feelings of guilt, persecution, and despair.
    You must learn to divorce your ego from your trading.

    In my first manuscript on trading, Trading by the Book, I said that trading is a business in which there is no competition. I meant that in the sense that the only competition in trading is yourself. The market is impersonal. It doesn’t know you or care about you.
    Your job as a trader is not to will the market to go where you want it to go, but rather to discover which way the market is going and join it – get in step with it.

    That means total surrender of your will to that of the market. Surrender to it and go with it. If you set your will against the market, you will invariably be smashed. Forget being right! Concentrate on the fact that the market is always right.

    Uncertainty is a part of trading. But we cannot allow uncertainty to become part of the image of ourselves.

    Consider, are you making any of the following ego-centric mistakes?

    • Trading without a predetermined loss exit point.
    • Trading without a predetermined objective point.
    • Not pulling the trigger on a trade, or hesitating before pulling the trigger.
    • Trading too large a size, or trading too often.
    • Marrying a trade, or marrying a market.
    • Adding to a losing trade.
    • Not taking profits when they are there on the table.

    How can we separate our ego from our trading? How do we keep from taking trades personally? How do we avoid internalizing what happens in the market, good or bad?

    One way to separate our egos from our trading is to build fences between ourselves and our trading.

    Realize that it’s “okay” if you are not right about every trade. It is not important to be right. It is important to execute and carry out your trading plan with consistency and discipline. Give yourself permission to be wrong about a trade.

    Realize that taking a loss has nothing to do with your self-esteem. Tell yourself that taking losses is a part of trading, that it has nothing to do with your self-esteem. Give yourself permission to lose from time to time. Your ego must remain intact regardless of what is happening in your trading.
    Erecting appropriate fences between yourself and your trading maintains your ability to separate yourself from your trading business.

    There is more to you than your business. You are more than your trading. A proper fence informs you that the results of one trade are not to be confused with the results of all of your trading. Fences guide you as to the difference between the past, the present, and the future.

    So, you didn't even type this just copied and pasted it, ya lazy clown. If you're gonna shill your shit, at least put a little effort into it, ok?
    And don't give me any of that "trying to help" crap either.
    You're just trying to score a dime. Be honest.
    I had to work for my money this week, I didn't try to lift it from some unsuspecting new-guy.
  3. "Joe was a private trader and investor for much of his life, but a serious health situation in the late 80's caused him to shift his focus, and that is when he decided to share his knowledge. After his recovery, he founded Trading Educators in 1988, to teach aspiring traders how to make profits using his trading approach."

    Sir Joe ,

    We really want to believe that you were trading for a living before you got sick, do you mind sharing with us your track record ?

    To set you apart from the snake oil crowd, you could put that track record on your site WITHOUT the usual hypothetical disclaimer...what you think ?

    Or what about starting a journal here with live calls ? (no stress (I guess you had a heart attack) for you since you will be paper trading)

    P.S. Just giving some suggestions
  4. bat1


    who ever wrote it thanks for the tip!


    point well taken
  5. BVM88


    Good advice Joe that most people will know to be true if they last long enough.
  6. spindr0


    I really like those Ego waffles!