How to prove I traded the account of my relative?

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by bpj, Jan 5, 2020.

  1. bpj

    bpj Guest

    How can I prove that I traded my immediate family member's futures account if there was no Power of Attorney in place?
    My broker wanted to charge extra commission for establishing such a POA and we wanted to avoid it. Now I want to show these were my trades - any suggestions welcome
     
  2. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    Self-directed traders are not allowed to give their username and password to others. If you have a number of people who you want to trade for, then just approach the broker and tell him you may bring the additional volume of family and friends. If you build a track record under a POA, you could use that later if you become licensed as a CTA.

    I am sorry but you asking traders how to get away with something you should have not done.
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2020
  3. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk

    Hum, enlighten me with the specific NFA/CFTA paragraph handling these short of "issues"?
     
  4. Nighthawk

    Nighthawk

    You go to a CPA (certified public accountant) and ask him/her to make a note in the accompanying track record audit/compilation report that you traded the account.

    Problem solved.
     
  5. MattZ

    MattZ Sponsor

    You are more then welcome to call your FCM and ask them if you can just pass credentials around and then call the CME and get their perspective on the same matter. You are not allowed to provide individual credentials to your trading platform unless both you and the POA party have agreed to this through a signed document the FCM provides.
     
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  6. Bum

    Bum

    Good luck in finding a CPA that's going to give you a note of "verification" with no proof of anything. How do you prove to the CPA you traded the account?
     
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  7. garachen

    garachen

    The typical fine for doing this on the CME is 20-50k for an individual and suspension from trading for a year to possibly forever.

    Just look up CME regulatory actions for Tag50 violations. A lot of trading regulations are very easy to run afoul of and carry penalties from $$$ to prison.

    I’d avoid obtaining proof.
     
  8. ajacobson

    ajacobson

    Don't - if the guy doesn't trust you - avoid doing business with them.
     
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  9. Turveyd

    Turveyd

    I'm assuming the person who's account it is, is no longer around, hence the need to gain access to the funds.
     
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    prob wants to use it for track record.
     
    #10     Jan 5, 2020
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