how to manage false breakouts on NQ ES

Discussion in 'Index Futures' started by pawpaw, May 27, 2003.

  1. Atlantic

    Atlantic

    what you described is a simple bullflag to me

    do you only trade long?

    why do you need bb ? - they're lagging like all price indicators

    and what about the 5 min charts - flags work pretty fine in any t.frame?
     
    #211     Jun 6, 2003
  2. Hey "Himself" - you are welcome. Someone is $200 richer this morning just because of me. Ain't that sweet! I think I might be feeling the need to become a Guru now.

    There's only three things my devoted followers that you must now do:

    One: use foul language as much as possible. Jack doesn't like it.

    Two: Patrol all threads on this web site and take a shite on the head of any deadbeat guru and his groupies. They'e easy to spot because they kiss ass, harrass non-believers, make ridiculous claims, and sound like egg-heads. In other words, they don't trade and are just assholes.

    Three: Don't question me when your next 5 trades all lose money. I am your new Guru remember :D

    Until next time, your friendly Lone Ranger:
    SIMTRADER. aka Simple moron trader.
     
    #212     Jun 6, 2003
  3. a) Call it what you like. I just call it buying new highs at the right time of day.

    b) Short is just as good.

    c) I use BB because I find them the best filter for which breakouts to trade. I couldn't care less what they are supposed to be (lagging, leading or whatever). Mine is not to question how or why something seems to work. I just trade what I see.

    d) I'm not trading "flags". I'm looking for breakouts that fit the rules on Page 24. Nothing more nothing less. I'm then using my skill and experience to fine tune when to move the stop, which trades to filter out (via 4 market analysis). If you can make money in another timeframe with this stuff, then be my guest. Just don't step into one minute chart territory because there some serious "expert traders" at that level. Right, Jack?!

    The way to make money is to tell yourself you are a moron. I do this everyday. In fact, I make my wife tell me - it has added impact that way :) Then to patiently wait for the very best signals and not to trade when in doubt. The skill comes with the grey areas: signals that technically meet my criteria but feel wrong. Ths skill comes with good stop movement once in a trade. If this method were 100% mechanical than it wouldn't work.

    Start getting your head around the idea of buying as high as you can, and selling as low as you can. And only doing this once or max twice a day. The exact opposite of how most people think and try to trade. What I've given you is a starter for 10. You figure out the grey stuff. I ain't here to give your hand and stroke your forehead with soothing words. There's plenty of Guru's around for that job. Right Jack?!
     
    #213     Jun 6, 2003
  4. 09:45est centering @1001 bracket in @ 1002.1
    stall
    dip
    Failure
    FBP
    Reverse on BO down 1006.2

    s 1006.2 ts 5 min 4 bars back @ H val + 1 tick.

    go to tape on 5 min then 15 min

    exit as "continuation"

    mkt exit 997.2

    enter L 998.1 @ 11:31
     
    #214     Jun 6, 2003
  5. wash 999.0
     
    #215     Jun 6, 2003
  6. everything is on neutral
     
    #216     Jun 6, 2003
  7. I am getting administrator notices about frequncy of posts. LOL
     
    #217     Jun 6, 2003
  8. we are looking for a BO out of neutral

    Everything is perfect.

    no volume

    MACD on nuetral

    Stoc on 50%

    zero momentum time

    Sim is not in and he is seeing all his signals compressing as volatility kills them.

    what will he do? He has to wait until stuff goes "outside".

    will be neat if he puts up a chart before his entry if he does go in.
     
    #218     Jun 6, 2003
  9. Ahh shit - he's off again. Mr. Nutty Professor of the year award, babbling away with his jibberish. C'mon folks ...chime in here. WHAT THE HELL IS HE TALKING ABOUT?! "Himself" - you're $200 richer today, can you make head or tail of it?

    Wanna know what I think? I think this message is coded for only his groupies to understand. Can there be any other explanation?

    And you all thought I was paranoid about the Guru and Groupie scene on this web site didn't you?! SEE what I'm talking about now?

    Can you imagine if I weren't here anymore, and you had to go back to suffering this drivvel everyday?! God what a nightmare.
     
    #219     Jun 6, 2003
  10. nitro

    nitro

    Jack,

    I extend the invitation to the chatroom as I did Simtrader. Posting these trades in Realtime would allow us all to make heads or tails of them.

    nitro
     
    #220     Jun 6, 2003