Wuddaya mean, "wheres the proof"? Citing ones belief isn't the same as claiming to have run a 4 minute mile or dunk a basketball. If someone tells you he believes a thing thats all you need.
If something exists, there should be proof, right? LOL!!! Just because someone claims to be an agnostic, atheist, or theist...is not proof that they actually are an agnostic, atheist, or theist. They could be lying when they make that claim... So, where is the proof?
Its a belief, not a thing. Why lie about it if you're advocating it? And if anyone were lying what would be the point? I think you made a wrong turn somewhere, time to back track.
Yes, it is a belief. So? Beliefs exist, obviously... So where is the proof that the belief is: 1. True or false. 2. Truly or falsely spoken. If something exists, there should be an ability to prove it objectively, right? LOL!!! You are stuck in a circle so every turn you are making right now is the wrong way, unless you are happy being a human hamster on a wheel... <img src=http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/graphics/man_hamster_wheel_lg_nwm.gif>
That the Belief is true or not is the 64 thousand dollar question but that someone holds a belief isn't a thing that can be proven. Now you may suspect someone is misrepresenting their beliefs and when they go home at night does the opposite of what they advocate here. That disingenuousness would make them to my way of thinking a goofball entertaining themselves with wasting other peoples time. Is that what your'e driving at?
i think i am picking up what you are laying down, brother 7s. with this vein of reasoning, anything that anyone says as their opinion could be a lie. what is the inherent existence of any thought except in its perception by the awareness within/without the respective "thinker," each thought disappearing into the vastness before it can be analyzed with anything except new thoughts. that said, all opinions could be "lies" in that they are born of a mind in constant flux that we imagine to be consistent just because we happen to repeat the same thoughts over and over again about a particular topic. just change the words and the opinion can be mutated into an entirely new form, thus a lie from the former moment's belief/opinion that "i am an agnostic." where is truth when it is all just a collection of words that we cling to as validation to who we identify with ourselves as being and when... or...uhhh... maybe you reckon it is just the nature of folks to make shit up?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deconstruction Sort of like what lawyers do when they hunt for loopholes in any legislation that their handlers want to circumvent. Its why a single word like Socialist never tells the whole story. The imprecision of language.
AYE!! language is ever imprecise and just a comfortable, threadbare shirt on the luminous body of a boundless, timeless, anthropomorphization-free (and preferably, pesticide-free) god. deconstruction, dialectics and on out to dadaism, bless those lawyers and politicians for the way they turn phrases to make it seem as if they are always saying something even heavier than the air those soundwaves are weaving through.