Quotes from stu: "A drop of water designs, it is a designer. Wind is a designer too. Super Nova Stars themselves create designs when they explode for instance. They are designers. Black holes cause designs to occur as they suck in galaxies , stars and gases. The completely natural movement of one thing against another creates natural designs. They are all designers. A moving rock can cause a design in sand, or be designed by the sea. " I suppose I could go the dictionary route to demonstrate how absurd stu's use of the word design and designer are... However, it seems more realistic to just accept stu was taking mescaline or eating peyote buttons when he wrote the psychedelic blather-prose above...
According to that, "a designer" of the universe can only be a person. A human being. So much for the Creator God idea then.
What actually designs? The mind, not the body. The body carries out the plans of the mind. God has mind, a drop of water does not...
Clearly your mind has designed 'mind' for your God In any case take it up with jficquette . He's the one saying only a person , who now must have a mind according to you, can be a designer. You seem to be adding weight to the consequence of that, which is Creator God is human. Water simply proves no mind is essential to make design, unless you unnecessarily design one. Which of course is exactly what Creationists do.
How do you know there is a god, and how do you know that, if there is one, he has a mind? You talk about being open-minded and disliking atheists because they are set in their "beliefs." And yet, here you are speaking with certainty about god. How are you any better than the people you disparage, even by your own standards?
By the way, it is God, not god...really, it won't hurt you to use a capital G. " How are you any better than the people you disparage, even by your own standards?" I have never claimed that theists are better..., sorry if the truth makes you feel inferior...theists are just more intellectually honest about their faith than atheists who deny they practice their own brand of faith...like the faith that water is a designer. We can go around the wheel forever in an intellectual exercise TK9, been there, done that, not interested... <img src=http://www.chrisrue.com/funcave/graphics/man_hamster_wheel_lg_nwm.gif>