How to Learn Price Action

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by SoCalTrader619, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. dozu888

    dozu888

    once again, a decent thread is turned into 'give me the parameters to plug in so that I can produce the same result' baby cry for spoon feeding.

    stop asking questions..... the answers are already given.... now go stare at the screen for 10,000 hours..... you will find it in the charts. (as Ben Hogen once said, you will find it in the dirt)
     
    #61     Feb 12, 2008
  2. Thanks Dustin for all the insight. Thats a great place to start.
     
    #62     Feb 12, 2008
  3. Not very fair to dbphoenix, is it?

    LC
     
    #63     Feb 12, 2008
  4. jdkgroup

    jdkgroup

    FAST TRACK:

    1. Read Anekdoten's Thread start to finish

    2. Buy a book on patterns (you can support an ET member & buy the great book from surinotes.com)

    3. Get some charting software & watch several different types of charts...1/3/5/30/60 minute.....250/500/1000/2000 tick.....1000/2500/5000 volume & see what you like...you will start getting more comfortable

    4. Paper trade.....paper trade.....papertrade (ninjatrader.com is free)

    5. you will start getting the hang of it....dont make it too complicated
     
    #64     Feb 12, 2008
  5. Dustin

    Dustin

    I am talking about strength on that day. What happened yesterday doesn't matter.

    Of course you don't know what is going to happen before the open so don't try to trade on so little info.

    I suggest not even trading the first 30 mins if you are new to trading. Let some trends define themselves in the strong and weak stocks then start taking little jabs. You can add to positions as they go your way. You will learn trade management by trading small and only adding to winners.

    Make it simple. Have 20 charts available to you. Use whatever software you have that has a gainers/losers list, and populate 10 charts with the top 10 strongest stocks, and the other 10 for the weakest stocks. Some of them will be too thin to trade, or too high priced...the important thing is that you find the ones you do want to trade, and have a chart available to watch them the entire day. I use 30 charts (15 for strong, 15 weak).

    This type of strategy is the oldest, simplest form of trading, and it works.
     
    #65     Feb 13, 2008
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  6. Dustin

    Dustin

    Thanks, and I know what you are talking about. I get into trouble on some of those trades too. Sometimes there's just no telling when the steamroller is going to stop. That's why I think traders with <1 year experience just shouldn't be allowed to sell strength or buy weakness. If I was training traders, that would be a hard rule. In fact I think if most traders followed that for their entire career we would all make a lot more money.
     
    #66     Feb 13, 2008
  7. Thanks for your input Dustin.

    It goes a long way to confirm what we found in our own trading.

    What started out as a basic question has turned into text book lesson on trading.

    We're all smart enough to see it and know exactly what he's talking about.

    The lesson now is to See the Setup, wait for your confirmation Trigger and Follow-through with the the Trade.
     
    #67     Feb 13, 2008
  8. Joab

    Joab

    Dustin,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    I've used gainers and losers myself screened with volume but found this doesn't always produce directional moves so well.

    I find that screening for important news releases (earning etc..) as well as volume helps a lot.

    Your comments on expanding volatility are interesting care to give an example.
     
    #68     Feb 13, 2008
  9. It wasn't my intention to imply that only those that use CVB charts are the only ones to make money because that is definately not the case.

    That being said, please tell me what information "time-based" bars provide that volume based bars don't other than abnormal spikes caused by varying volume per bar?
     
    #69     Feb 13, 2008
  10. dozu888

    dozu888

    to some, the 'abnormal spikes' (or the lack of them) are the key indication of things such as:

    professional accumulation
    professional distribution
    lack of demand
    lack of supply.

    How do you observe the above using CVBs?
     
    #70     Feb 13, 2008