How to hedge SPY?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by kmiklas, Jul 13, 2021.

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    1] MAINLY study trends/study them a lot......................................................................
    2]F0R sure a bigger downmoVe JUL 4th week in SPY \but the main surprise to me it did not happen weeks earlier.
    3]QQQ tends to sell off with SPY but doesnt have to it/ it did not JULy 4th.
    4]SDS seems to work better for me ,some profits than spxs or spxu, for swing trading; SSO, SPXL,UPRO help better than sds,spxs,spxu// in different time buys.
    5]Monthly charts work well in a SPY/QQQ bull market; maybe not so much in MAR\SEPT
    6-7] Repeating patterns, monthly charts work well usually in a SPY QQQ bull/market/ sure did JUL4th week. I did not include comissions but did include dividends /when i get them:caution::caution:
     
    #11     Jul 13, 2021
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  2. I recommend reading this:
    Does the Capital Asset Pricing Model Work? (hbr.org)
     
    #12     Jul 13, 2021
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  3. 2rosy

    2rosy

    unless your account is many millions, it doesn't make sense to hedge. But if you want to spy options
     
    #13     Jul 13, 2021
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  4. 5% return over 11 years? Am I reading that right because that sucks if I read that correctly..
     
    #14     Jul 13, 2021
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  6. The basic idea is that stock prices are driven primarily by the market factor (e.g. beta to SPX), with the rest being distributed across industry, factor, and idiosyncratic risks.
     
    #16     Jul 13, 2021
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    Another Elite Trader noted he used a stop loss to hedge.
    BUY SPY every month or quarter for 40 years tends to work well. One DEC looked like they may sell it hard + they did not ; SPY + UPRO worked well/spy drawdowns much less than UPRO..........
     
    #17     Jul 13, 2021
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  8. Well that's the difference between a hedge and an exit. You hedge when you want to get a cleaner exposure on a trade. You exit when the risk/loss is too great.
     
    #18     Jul 13, 2021
  9. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    See SPXS
     
    #19     Jul 13, 2021
  10. GotherL

    GotherL

    The day SPY fell 8 points on open from DIDI takedown? Made 1000% on SPY 430P for my COIN calls. Never imagined for a second it would bank. But I was thinking an unlikely otm put on SPY was better than no hedge. I get screwed way too many times from holding options overnight.
     
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    #20     Jul 13, 2021