how to get short-term capital like $20M for 1 month?

Discussion in 'Prop Firms' started by jason.miller.1968, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. jason.miller.1968

    jason.miller.1968 Guest

    2012: I earn $0.5M from 5M PnL (10% commission, $20M capital from my hedge fund partner)

    2013: I earn $1M from 10M PnL (10% commission, $20M capital from my hedge fund partner)

    2014: I hope to find some investor to get $20M for one month at a cost of $2M, then I can make $8M instead of $1M assuming I can still make $10M PnL.

    Is it that difficult to understand?

     
    #31     Apr 26, 2014
  2. jason.miller.1968

    jason.miller.1968 Guest

    Thanks for the info. So I agree that I should not look for hard money lender any more.

    Instead, I should set up a hedge fund myself. But I am wondering the impact of the special capital usage pattern (2M in 11 months while 20M in one month) .

    Any one knows good forum for hedge fund newbies? Can I do it myself (with help from professionals of course) or need to find a partner with MBA degree?

     
    #32     Apr 26, 2014

  3. Yeah, it is.

    It appears that you want to take a flier on some expiration-trade (short vola). Let's treat it on the merits (none). Nobody is going to give you $20MM unsecured.

    So you're going to earn $10MM on a 30-day term. First you stated you were going to bid on an auction, now it doesn't matter when, but how. Jason, you really need to stop here as all of this is now of public record. You're doing yourself more harm than good.
     
    #33     Apr 26, 2014
  4. jasonmiller.com?

    You deleted your last. Why is that?
     
    #34     Apr 26, 2014
  5. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Let's assume it's all true:

    Your ignorance of the business you are in is astounding.

    You are going to seek capital to run risk 10x larger than you are used to.

    Moreover you think said investor will take a 10percent return (if it all works out) and all the downside. 10 seconds of due dilligence and they will realize they can invest with your friend and get 80percent of the upside and have much less operational and audit risk.
     
    #35     Apr 26, 2014
  6. RedSun

    RedSun

    A dumb question, why do you need that much money to start with? :D
     
    #36     May 8, 2014
  7. Is there a way to contact you offline? Seems you don't have the PM function enabled.
     
    #37     May 8, 2014