How simple are professional trader's strategies?

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by iamnewuser911, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    There is no argument to be had. I am stating fact. I expect the majority to disagree and discount it. However, it is fact. PRM is the only edge available to the retail trader--period.
     
    #41     Oct 4, 2017
  2. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    OK, so if I prove it to you that I have a fairly decent profitable strategy WITHOUT any money management, would you call your statement incorrect?
     
    #42     Oct 4, 2017
  3. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    You'd be showing your level of foolishness.
     
    #43     Oct 4, 2017
  4. JackRab

    JackRab

    Risk management is a necessity to survive... but it doesn't generate ideas.

    Ideas potentially generate alpha... which in combination with sound risk management generate profitable trades.

    Just having a good risk management without any ideas, that's just gambling... flipping a coin with the added negative of transaction costs...

    Theoretically, when you're just trading this way, 50:50 in direction... and your risk management hopefully kicks in with stoplosses at less costly than letting profits run. But, if you are in a sideways market which doesn't move much... than I'm pretty sure you're not going to be able to be profitable.

    Therefore... your alpha generation will be in hitting the trends... so even with 50:50 you're profits can be run-up in a decent way.

    So... in the end.... you still need to generate some kind of alpha by finding the trend....

    @Buy1Sell2 is wrong... and @sle and @Pekelo are right... I rest my case.... :p
     
    #44     Oct 4, 2017
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  5. I'd disagree with that. I love sideways markets and I'm only slightly better than a coin-flip in getting direction (and don't even talk to me about getting magnitude right). My stops will mean a larger loss than the position's maximum profit. And the strategy is profitable. It's purely dependent on managing risk on high probability positions and diversifying sufficiently that no one position can ruin a week while countering certain market-wide moves. It's nothing more than limiting losses while being there to take the winners as they come.
     
    #45     Oct 5, 2017
  6. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Sadly, you don't have a grasp on what Prudent Risk Management is.
     
    #46     Oct 5, 2017
  7. JackRab

    JackRab

    Ah... @Buy1Sell2... a true troll... or a sour grape... probably both.

    How did you come to your conclusion that I don't know what prudent risk management is? 50:50 guess?
     
    #47     Oct 5, 2017
  8. JackRab

    JackRab

    But high probability positions mean you are targeting a bit of alpha... that's your aim. And on top of that, risk management to keep it in check...
     
    #48     Oct 5, 2017
  9. A bit generous to the bell curve to characterize it as alpha, don't you think? :p
     
    #49     Oct 5, 2017
  10. JackRab

    JackRab

    Yeah maybe... but at least you're trying to make decent money this way... more than just buy-and-hold...? Or are you just playing around ;)
     
    #50     Oct 5, 2017