How predictive is volume to index futures?

Discussion in 'ETFs' started by ninZa.co, Aug 27, 2023.

  1. TrAndy2022

    TrAndy2022

    Did you backtest this ? Anything you can say about the backtests ? Or better did you trade going forward this ? Any results you can share ?
     
    #11     Aug 28, 2023
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    I would not call it predictive;
    slight exceptions in related markets, liquidity leaders + liquidity leader has notable better volume.
    Maybe more important in cash markets like copper+ other cash markets;
    but not predictive. [Even more important I would never want to do any kind of volume with market on close in cash metals]
     
    #12     Aug 28, 2023
  3. savoir

    savoir

    Volume is an independent variable. Is it predictive? Well that depends on what you’re looking to predict, but I wouldn’t suggest using it for predicting anything.

    Every chunk of price information has an associated volume. Therefore, volume is essential for gathering a complete data set upon which analysis can be done and trading decisions made. Volume can be highly informative of price at certain stages of a trend, specifically at end effects.

    To make volume useful, it needs to be calibrated and periodically recalibrated to changing market conditions. Think of it as “clocking” the market.
     
    #13     Aug 28, 2023
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  4. heispark

    heispark

    Try Youtube videos by keyword "trade by matt". He posts live trades for free each day and he uses CDV. For myself, I use it as a confirmation for breakouts. Of course , this is not a magic tool.
     
    #14     Aug 29, 2023
  5. svrz

    svrz

    Can you please elaborate?
     
    #15     Sep 2, 2023
  6. I absolutely use volume in my analysis of ES

    I’m pretty sure @tiddlywinks and @Sprout rely heavily on it as well

    • Volume and price increasing, probably should be long
    • Volume increasing and price decreasing, probably should be short
    • Everything else, be ready
    I say ‘probably’ because it isn’t as straight forward as that..
     
    #16     Sep 2, 2023
  7. savoir

    savoir

    Market pace. Values need to be adjusted to reflect market conditions. Adjusted twice in 2020 which was a rare occurrence. Once in 2022 and once this year.

    A relativistic oscillator can be used for the initial calibration. I use a stochastic on 5m bars to determine a value for fast pace. Slow and medium are derived from fast pace. For DU and extreme I use the eyeball method.
     
    #17     Sep 2, 2023
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  8. Handle123

    Handle123

    I do use volume in automated scalping/day trading, but most likely differently than most. Lulls mean nada, not looking for accumulation or distribution but it looks for abnormal sequences. What I believe is larger trader(s) getting in/out, by monitoring several systems many use, clues of dumping contracts occurring. Larger traders look to take out meat of a trend and not last tick. Many larger traders accumulate size in profitable trades so as not to give away their intentions.

    Market profile I believe better in Stocks than futures, at least for me.
     
    #18     Sep 17, 2023
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