How much to add to a loser?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by trader1974, Apr 23, 2021.

  1. You can use TA. Price should respect previous support levels in a bullish trend. There can be multiple support levels. If 2 are broken in a row, then you are probably trading the wrong direction.
     
    #31     Apr 25, 2021
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  2. trader1974

    trader1974

    I like to use the most common ones. EMA 20,50,100

    Thanks for the Easymon link, very interesting
     
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    #32     Apr 25, 2021
  3. easymon1

    easymon1

  4. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks


    That is one the most Dunning-Kruger-esque posts on ET!

    1) Scale-in is not about "picking" tops and/or bottoms. Scale-in is a technique that is deployed when your methodologies and trade plan dictate.

    2) Scaling-in to a loser is a technique to attain a "better" break-even point.
    Scaling-in to a winner is a technique to increase ALREADY EXISTING (unrealized) profits.
    NB: Losers can be longs or shorts. Winners can be longs or shorts.

    3) Scale-in to a loser vs scale-in to a winner DO NOT CANCEL EACH OTHER. A failed scale-in winner will almost always exit with at least some profit. A failed scale-in loser will almost always be a bigger than initial loser. Again, methods and trade plan dictate, hence, "almost always" is my bias.
     
    #34     Apr 25, 2021
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    I have seen mention of Dunning-Kruger before. I am not of a mind to look it up at the moment, but how can what you say in point #3 be true?

    If you scale into a loser, you have decreased your avg price. If it then goes in your original direction, you are amplifying your win by getting closer to BE by your original non-avg entry.

    If you scale into a winner, you have increased your avg price. If it then goes opposite your original direction, you are amplifying your loss by getting farther away from BE by your original non-avg entry.
     
    #35     Apr 25, 2021
  6. tiddlywinks

    tiddlywinks

    Why are you comparing apples and oranges?


    In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. ~ Yogi Berra
     
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    #36     Apr 25, 2021
  7. Overnight

    Overnight

    It isn't apple to orange, it is apple to apple. I am not explaining it properly I guess.
     
    #37     Apr 25, 2021
  8. bone

    bone

    Adding to winners is a vastly more superior strategy than adding to losers.

    You're welcome. :D
     
    #38     Apr 26, 2021
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  9. %%
    Good points.
    NEVER add to a loser, not to be confused with 5 minute noise.
    Could add to a winner, IF its part of a well tested battle plan.
    Sometimes something changes after you enter the trade I just remembered i kicked FAS out one time+ good thing i did/LOL.
    AT that time it was not funny, but kicking something out[exit] was the best.
     
    #39     Apr 26, 2021
  10. @trader1974 One of the most enduring sayings is cut losses early and let winners run.
     
    #40     Apr 27, 2021
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