How much should I sell the Holy Grail secrets for?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by jinxu, Nov 20, 2024.

  1. p0box4

    p0box4

    This isn't an indication about how your system is doing at all, this was done over 2 days.
    2 days mean absolutely nothing.

    You say you have been live one month, why don't you share the stats for those month instead of just these 2 days?
     
    #51     Nov 21, 2024
  2. jinxu

    jinxu

    I didn't trade too good with the last combine so the stats doesn't really demonstrate the system ability.
     
    #52     Nov 21, 2024
  3. NoahA

    NoahA

    I would love to see a sample of your trades if you don't mind sharing. Either trades taken in the past few days, or even calling a few out in real time. I think this would inspire lots of interest.
     
    #53     Nov 21, 2024
  4. p0box4

    p0box4

    So not really a holy grail then, is it?
     
    #54     Nov 21, 2024
  5. jinxu

    jinxu

    It was a first test but I'm not satisfy with the statistics because of poor trading.
    I think with better trading then you can see much better stats.

    Poor trading is a human error doesn't mean the system doesn't work.
    Would you blame a Lamborgini for being a bad car if the driver crashed it?
     
    #55     Nov 21, 2024
  6. jinxu

    jinxu

    I'm not sure because I think that would reveal a lot.
    Unless you have an idea how I can demonstrate the system but not reveal too much?
     
    #56     Nov 21, 2024
  7. NoahA

    NoahA

    It's very difficult. The only proof I value is trades called and managed in real time. Even if you showed a summary of the past couple days, it wouldn't eliminate the possibility of trades that are skipped to hide the losers. You haven't even talked about any stats yet like the number of trades you make and the average win and loss, although for some people these metrics don't matter at all. But at least it gives us a sense of how you trade and what to expect.
     
    #57     Nov 21, 2024
  8. jinxu

    jinxu

    Let's just say the Holy Grail is a hybrid of many different type of trading systems you can find randomly on the internet or books etc.

    What most people will find on the internet is that they do work but only work sometimes.
    And the reason behind that is that they only have one system but it's only a part of a bigger system.
    The Holy Grail would be how these different systems come together to work as an ultimate system.
     
    #58     Nov 21, 2024
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  9. NoahA

    NoahA

    But then even more reason for why it's vital to provide some proof or transparency because it's just the regular old stuff out there that has been around. I imagine if somebody said they have a moving average crossover system, they would be laughed off the form, but given the right parameters, they likely can make it work. But once again, the onus is on the person making the claim to provide the proof.
     
    #59     Nov 21, 2024
  10. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    Why don’t you automate it ?

    I believe you said it works on multiple TFs and underlyings ?

    Automate and let the algorithm trade multiple TFs and markets for you.

    You can trade mini then micro.

    That should be your next step. Harvest the more you can while it’s working because … who knows ?

    You can start with as low as 1,000$.
    Then double, quadruple, octuple, …, centuple.

    Just don’t sleep on your holy grail …
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2024
    #60     Nov 21, 2024