How much different Is forex from the stock market

Discussion in 'Forex' started by crazytrader1, Apr 7, 2007.


  1. I regards to mechanical trading systems using technical indicators your right, but dont tell tradestation. The guy with the biggest and fastest computer would have cornered the market long ago.

    Discretionary traders who use technical analysis are more common winners.
     
    #21     Apr 9, 2007
  2. secxces

    secxces

    Look buddy, Im not trying to be a smart a** directly, its some what indirect. You have to understand, there are many, probably hundreds of noobies who come to this site preying for answers to there crazy million dollar dreams. The only thing you can do sometimes is to at least point them in the right direction. (No Pun intended to the original poster). Telling people, based upon your experience, that TA is useless is evident/obviously incorrect. However, you do seem like your words hold some merit. Im not bias to the comments, entirely, you were making. Im just bias against your comments about TA.

    No hate hear buddy, just clarification, welcome to the forums btw, I look forward to some of your insights. Someone who is a professional in this world is always welcomed.

    - secXces
     
    #22     Apr 9, 2007
  3. TOM134

    TOM134

    Great question CRAZYTRADER1 !

    You are so right BRABED: some people are close-minded.

    SECXCES, good riddens and don't come back !!

    The truth about the relationship between stock and fx trading:

    1) It's a 50/50 crap shoot: the price will either go up or it will go down. A better game would be to play either the red or the black on the roulette wheel. Over time it really doesn't matter.

    2) Somewhere along the way Dr. Greenspan told a Senate committee:

    .... "When you are dealing with stock the possibilities of which are either, it's going to be valued at zero, or some huge number - you get a premium in that stock price which is exactly the same sort of price evaluation process that goes on in the lottery: following principles known to lottery managers for centuries."

    3) .... "The chimp, known as Raven to his managers at the Internet Stock Review, threw 10 darts at a dartboard with the names of 133 internet companies to select the 'MonkeyDex' - a portfolio showing 50 per cent growth on a year-to-date basis, outstripping the Munder Net fund, with 32 per cent growth."

    4) The only winner out there is the 'house': your local casino and your broker.

    5) Save yourself a lot of time and effort: invest in an INDEX fund.
     
    #23     Apr 9, 2007
  4. The principles I use do.
     
    #24     Apr 9, 2007
  5. Ezzy

    Ezzy

    For the FX, is there a way to use a substitute for volume? Maybe bar volatility as a proxy?

    What about leading markets?

    - EZ
     
    #25     Apr 9, 2007
  6. Brabed

    Brabed

    Bottom line here, gentleman, is this:

    Theta made a broad statement that TA doesn't work and that got a lot of folk's attention. In my view, using statistics is a form of TA so therefore he made his own point moot. It comes down to semantics and I think that what Theta ultimately intended was that 'conventional TA' doesn't work.

    A lot of 'conventional' TA does use regression models similar to what you are doing Theta, just as a point.

    Knowing that the markets are NOT random walk, then we must conclude that all TA must work to some extent, some better than others. I don't believe that Theta was trying to make the point that markets were random, which if they were, his statistical models would not work either.

    By the way, I'm reading a book where the author claims that the mere belief in Random Walk Theory disproves it's existence, ya, my head is still spinning from that.
     
    #26     Apr 9, 2007
  7. Brabed

    Brabed

    To answer the original question:

    Yes, if you are a good technician in the stock market then you should do well in Forex, but you must learn it's nuances. The Forex market has so much more liquidity than stocks, that this brings with it stability and, to a point, predictability.
     
    #27     Apr 9, 2007
  8. achilles28

    achilles28

    Conventional TA doesnt work?

    First define 'conventional TA'.

    Trendlines, channels, support and resistence work great in Forex.

    Sorry if it didn't work for you.

    Thats the bottom line.
     
    #28     Apr 9, 2007
  9. They do. On multiple time frames, no less.

    Coincidentally (or not...), those TA tools happen to present a considerably greater programming challenge when it comes to computer testing -- let alone ATS design -- than most indicator-type TA tools. However, they seem to be custom-made for a discretionary trader.
     
    #29     Apr 9, 2007
  10. secxces

    secxces

    LOL. Ok, Yeah im done on this one. Ill let others finish this one. Its too easy. *Shaking My Head*
     
    #30     Apr 9, 2007