How much did you lose on the journey to becoming profitable?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Risepoint1879, Jan 22, 2019.

  1. ??
     
    #71     Jan 26, 2019
  2. Amazing, you made it.
     
    #72     Jan 26, 2019
  3. billv

    billv

    Well, it's not easy, it takes a LOT of effort and a VERY long time because there is a lot to learn
    and we also have to learn to control our emotions and this is a VERY VERY hard to do,
    BUT...if we are passionate and dedicated, eventually it will click.

    For me it took longer than I would have liked because like most other traders,
    I was trying to make the impossible possible by trading a smallish account on very high leverage
    so I got caught out in market manipulation and went backwards a few times.

    The following things made a significant difference.

    1: I reduced my profit expectations to 5%-7% per month
    2: I increased my account size to over $100K
     
    #73     Jan 26, 2019
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  4. The biggest expense was not the money but time ! It depends how and what do you calculate but I would say it took about 7 years and lost money in bad trading something about 30ke. I turned profitable somewhere in 2011.
     
    #74     Jan 27, 2019
  5. Lost some, but the more important question is if one found his right trading software in that period
     
    #75     Jan 27, 2019
  6. Tomaz26

    Tomaz26

    Oh man, you really should aim higher and not try to be so humble. 7 % per month is not even 100 % a year.. And to think Buffet is considered one of the best in the world with only 20 % return per year, huh, what a loser..

    but anyway, congrats, you should be the richest man in the world in a short time :)
     
    #76     Jan 28, 2019
  7. wrbtrader

    wrbtrader

    Not possible if his trading is supporting him and/or family. Simply, everyday living expenses will prevent compounding the account to become the richest man in the world in a short time. :cool:

    Reality, the only way someone will become the richest man in the world is if they are alread very rich from whatever and their money is making them much more money (e.g. investments, corporate ownership, multi-million dollar investors, etc)

    Joking aside, you'll be surprise how many people actually believe they will become "one of the richest man in the world" from compounding their trading account after announcing on Elitetrader.com that they have become consistently profitable. :D

    P.S. Enjoy the laugh...its a good day.

    wrbtrader
     
    #77     Jan 28, 2019
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  8. schweiz

    schweiz

    You should aim more more brains and be a bit more humble. This is why:

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    8 people liked that posting, so it seems to be not only my opinion.
    With 1000% return a year you can still be poor. Because 1000% on $10 is only $100.
    There are a lot of aspects that have an influnece on the final result in $$$. With more brains you would maybe understand that. I make far more than 100% a year and I am no billionaire and will never be one.
     
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    #78     Jan 28, 2019
  9. Tomaz26

    Tomaz26

    Yeah I know, I just find it funny how many traders claim they make only 10 % per month, hoping they increase this to at least 50 % per month because hey, why else would you even trade... :)

    I would almost guarantee 95 % of people here (me included) have 5 or 10 years returns lower than index fund, specially considering dividend and most important taxes and time spent trading, worrying, commissions etc.. If anyone of us would spend this time building business, phew... I think if one just opens a list of 100 wealthiest people how many are traders/investors? Almost none and of those who are, they are paid hedge funds executives. Almost made this money by trading his own capital, but by being paid to do this.. Like I said, I am in the same camp and most of the time I just wonder why I didnt go all in after 2009 and forget about it. I would quadruple my money in that time instead of... I would rather not tell :)

    So yeah, I know scallability and that it is easier to make 100 % return on small account than it is later when you have big money, but still. Like someone higher up said, it is rear to see consistent trader that beats market year after year after taxes...
     
    #79     Jan 28, 2019
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  10. Tomaz26

    Tomaz26


    Hahaahah, sure you do kiddo.. Daddy gave you a dollar, you selling lemonade and you made 3? Congrats, but please, get real.. I think the only one missing brains here is you..
     
    #80     Jan 28, 2019