How Much Can You Improve A Strategy's Returns With Adjustments?

Discussion in 'Options' started by tommo, May 31, 2021.

  1. smallfil

    smallfil

    Buy and hold works only if you have 50 years left in your life. Maybe? Take CSCO which was $120 a share during the dotcom boom, 1999? Now, 05/28/21, CSCO is at $52.92. Twenty two years later and still looking to breakeven? Anyone remember WCOM, LU, ENRN and others? Lucent Technologies was eventually, sold real cheap when it was only worth $2 a share. Hell, you would not even make it 50 years. The trouble with buy and hold is you keep holding as your profitable positions all turn into losers. Or buying outright losing stocks that keep dropping in value. "Trend following works and far, far superior to buy and hold."
     
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    #11     May 31, 2021
  2. your ass makes 5 dollars inside a year talk to me
     
    #12     May 31, 2021
  3. jharmon

    jharmon

    Well there was a 2:1 stock split and it also started paying dividends, so those numbers don't stack up, but even so you're not quite back to breakeven if you bought at the peak of the dotcom boom.

    I use a combination of systems to smooth out drawdowns (trend following, mean reversion, momentum etc. across different universes within a given market and other uncorrelated markets/commodities).
     
    #13     May 31, 2021
  4. smallfil

    smallfil

    That is precisely, the point. You have not even broke even after like 22 years? That is a huge waste of time, monies and trading opportunities to sit on losing stocks. If you bought Enron, you lost all your monies. I started as an investor in the stockmarket and that is when I suffered huge losses with the buy and hold strategy. Hoping for the stock to recover which it never did. Now, as a trader, I know better. Just pointing out that buy and hold does not work.
     
    #14     May 31, 2021
  5. 7out

    7out

    Buy and hold on certain stocks obviously didn't work out well. However, I doubt anyone would not diversify if investing long term as you suggest. Buy and hold any index and you'll do just fine because it's well diversified.
     
    #15     May 31, 2021