How many Turtles made it ?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by fluttrader, Dec 31, 2008.

  1. Apparently about 23 made it through the selection process.

    Couldn't find info on how much became profitable, runned their own fund ...
  2. Trend Following

    Trend Following ET Sponsor

    Yeah, it's self-promotion, but the book I wrote, "The Complete TurtleTrader", takes a look at these issues.
  3. Do I really need to buy your book to get an answer on my simple question ?
  4. ess1096


    Post Turtles
    Kaylan and Volman (accompanied by Pons) joined the Mothers of Invention as "The Phlorescent Leech & Eddie", since the use of the Turtles name (and even their own names in billings) was prohibited by their contract with White Whale. Flo & Eddie, as they soon became known, recorded albums with the Mothers and later released a series of records on their own. Frank Zappa claimed that his association with Kaylan and Volman was inspired by a DJ's comment that he could make the Mothers as big as the Turtles. "If you want to be as big as the Turtles, have a few Turtles in your band", Zappa reportedly claimed. The collaboration with Zappa lasted until a jealous fan attacked and seriously injured Zappa when the Mothers were performing at the Rainbow Theatre in December, 1971.[citation needed]

    Kaylan and Volman sang backing vocals on several recordings by T.Rex, including their world-wide hit "Get it On (Bang A Gong)" and albums Electric Warrior and The Slider. When White Whale's master recordings were sold at auction, the duo won the Turtles' masters, making them the owners of their own recorded work. (The duo promptly licensed the tracks to Sire Records, who issued the compilation Happy Together Again.) They also sang backup on Bruce Springsteen's "Hungry Heart", from his album The River. In the 1980s they recorded soundtrack music for children's shows like the Care Bears and Strawberry Shortcake, and began hosting their own radio show on KROQ in Los Angeles and WXRK in New York City.

    1982 saw the re-release of The Turtles' original albums through Rhino Records. The following year, Howard Kaylan appeared in the rock-n-roll comedy film Get Crazy, starring Malcolm McDowell and Daniel Stern. Kaylan played the part of Captain Cloud, a spiritual guru, leader of a caravan of time-lost gypsy-like hippies.

    In 1984, Kaylan and Volman legally regained the use of the Turtles name, and began touring as The Turtles... Featuring Flo and Eddie. Instead of trying to reunite with their earlier bandmates, they began featuring all-star sidemen who had played with different groups. That year also saw the debut of the previously unreleased Shell Shock album as well as a new greatest hits CD, 20 Greatest Hits, both released by Rhino. The latter compilation was followed up in 1988 with another, Turtle Wax: The Best of The Turtles, Vol. 2, which featured the best of their "album tracks" and previously-neglected single B-sides.

    In 1987, 'Kaylan & Volman' appeared in a new music video of their song "Happy Together" promoting the romantic comedy Making Mr. Right, starring John Malkovich.

    The 1989 debut album by hip-hop combo De La Soul featured an uncredited sample from the Turtles (specifically, the intro to "You Showed Me"), in the song "Transmitting Live from Mars". Kaylan and Volman sued, winning a large settlement, setting a legal precedent, and causing the music industry to begin carefully crediting (and paying royalties for) sampled works on future rap and other recordings. As they explained, "We don't hate sampling; we like sampling. If we don't get credit, we sue, and all that stuff (a share of the royalties, plus punitive damages) comes back to us!"

    In that same year, the romantic-comedy Happy Together based on the musical Cabaret premiered. It starred teen-heart throb Patrick Dempsey and Helen Slater. The Turtles recording of "Happy Together" was featured in the film as well as the soundtrack album.

    Music Club Records released a Turtles anthology in the UK in 1991, Happy Together: The Best of the Turtles. Repertoire Records in Germany released their own compilation, titled Elenore, in 1993, as well as re-releasing the original Happy Together album. Rhino Records also presented Captured Live, a greatest-hits-live album of their 1992 tour, that year. Sundazed Records re-released all of The Turtles' original albums in 1994, and in 1999 Varèse Sarabande released Happy Together: The Best of White Whale Records, which included many of the Turtles' singles.
  5. Flutt They have it at Amazon for $12.

    You'll spend more than $12 in wages on this board trying to get an answer.
  6. bkk

    bkk Guest

    Michael, you wrote an awesome book.

    Completely corrected my trading mindset, which I had been working on for awhile.
  7. ==================
    I thought i remembered [ from my library, not original turtle,LOL:D ];
    21 out of 23, first class.

    Used Google now to confirm my library thoughts;

    murray ;
    t turtle, nickname from childhood

  8. Trend Following

    Trend Following ET Sponsor

    There was no exact number even among Turtles. As an example some Turtles said Lucy Wyatt was one, others said no. There were many issues that I write about.

    The successful Turtle fund managers today are Parker, Rabar, Cheval, Shanks, DiMaria and Seidler. Also, one Turtle told me that Svoboda has had the best numbers since 88, but Svoboda is not public so there is no way to verify his numbers.
  9. Russell Sands an original turtle solicited me a few years back
    to invest in a Vegas card counting group. that he was running.
    Evidently he was no longer trading at that time