How many scientists really dispute global warming?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Free Thinker, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. Another good article showing the low correlation to long-term solar radiance is here:

    <http://www.skepticalscience.com/news.php?n=115>
     
    #161     Jan 27, 2010
  2. the only thing proven by this asinine experiment is ...



    people just love to talk about the weather ..



    Adding the provenance of Ph'd 'Climatologists' simply multiplies this effect by 1000.


    I'm sure you all know where I stand ... firmly on the throat of these idiot-bastards
     
    #162     Jan 28, 2010
  3. You mean the same pos chart I have been trashing for several pages now? Where is your reply to my post? And please no bullshit excuses about how it isn't worth your time blah blah.
     
    #163     Jan 28, 2010
  4. Trash it all you want, you can verify the numbers against NASA's.

    If you don't want to believe the numbers that's your problem, not NASA's. (Especially when you can verify the numbers against other sources.)

    At that point it's more of a psychological issue.

    Psychology today would say that you're pursuing a quest for metaphysical certainty and doing that through "epic struggle between good and evil. The divine principle is pitted against the satanic principle. While it may appear that the battle hangs in the balance, the ultimate victory of the divine is commonly assumed. Hence, the dialectical version of metaphysics reduces to the Panglossian one."

    It's certainly simpler that way.

    "The belief that a secret, almost all-powerful human elite conspires to subdue the human masses for the sake of own profit is a variation on the theme of Satanic corruption. Imagine that all, or most, of the terrible things happening in the world are part of a grand oppressive design. Do not only assume that someone profits now from war, famine, or mere economic recession, but assume that such tribulations are secretly engineered for the ultimate goal of world domination. Events that could also be interpreted in a positive light, such as the civil unrest in Iran, must also be part of the grand scheme. Even with a rudimentary understanding of the scientific way of thinking, such ideas are suspect. First, there is no prediction other than "some terrible things will eventually happen," but only after-the-fact "explanation" of the "We-know-who-is-behind-this" type. Second, there is no model connecting distal causes (e.g., the plot to dominate the world) to the effects via proximal causes (e.g., plausible machinations that could actually cause complex societal events to come about in exactly the way they do). Third, there is no positive linkage between the imaginability or credibility of the causes and the observed events. Instead-and this is, I believe, the most astonishing psychological feature of conspiracy theories-it is assumed that the most improbable claims are taken to be the most persuasive ones."
     
    #164     Jan 28, 2010
  5. http://www.eoearth.org/article/Causes_of_climate_change

    I think the cause is an array of conditions, carbon, solar and earth axis shift/possible wobble, with solar being primary, earth axis secondary and carbon a small, but contributing factor none the less. Add them all together and a perfect storm could be brewing.
     
    #165     Feb 2, 2010
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    #166     Feb 2, 2010
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  8. I don't believe in AGW but if I did the obvious solution is "nuclear winter".
     
    #168     Feb 9, 2010
  9. Neither Washington nor the United States are the whole planet. In fact they are a rather small part of it. Globally, January 2010 was hottest January on record as determined by satellite measurement. But you don't have to take my word for it. Try well known AGW skeptic Roy Spencer who does not dispute the facts and reports as such here:

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/latest-global-temperatures/

    More comment here:

    http://climateprogress.org/2010/02/...-satellite-record-roy-spencer-global-warming/

    Only fools now dispute that the planet is warming.
     
    #169     Feb 9, 2010
  10. "Climate change — it happens, with or without our help". The quote taken right from Dr. Spencers web site. Yes, we're a tad warmer over that great span of time since 1979. But why? The climate cultists jump to their wild eyed conclusion that it must be the evil man, but the more balanced among us know that there are many other more natural factors in play which have considerably more impact than carbon emissions. Can't tax those sun spots and ocean currents though, now can we?
     
    #170     Feb 10, 2010