How many options strategies should you realistically master?

Discussion in 'Options' started by turkeyneck, Apr 26, 2023.

  1. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Well no that's why a covered call has the same payoff pattern as a short put. But usually with a covered call, people already own the stock so the shares's downside not being covered is a given. The point in a covered call is that the short call is covered hence the term "covered call". If you want to protect the underlying stock's downside, you can buy a protective put. I hope that answered your question.
     
    #21     Apr 26, 2023
  2. My point was that similar to short put there is a risk to the downside and from that point of view, CC and short put are similar. Was just trying to make you understand. But whatever man troll on.
     
    #22     Apr 26, 2023
  3. taowave

    taowave

    Cmon D,its a simple strategy that has seen its better days,but has relevance to you..

    Long stock + long put + short call. Same strike


     
    #23     Apr 26, 2023
  4. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    That strategy is called a "conversion"? A synthetic long call + short call? Basically "converting" the covered call to a synthetic verical call spread? I have thought of that strategy but I never knew that strategy is called a "conversion". So the purpose of that long put is to protect the potential downside of the long stock like what I said before?

    I agree that strategy is useful. But that would be just a credit call spread, OP has already listed that strategy in his first post. LOL I can see why it's seen its better days because it would be easier to just do a vertical call spread unless you really want to hold the underlying.
     
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    #24     Apr 26, 2023
  5. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    I already wrote:

    That's implied that the downside of a stock would not be protected but that's a given. Learn to read please.
     
    #25     Apr 26, 2023
  6. spy

    spy

    Inside joke from months ago where @TheDawn tried to explain his "infinite gamma" theory and then wouldn't listen to anyone offering him common sense. Wish I could find the thread now, iirc must've been late last year some time. Uh, yeah, I think it started here and the rest should make you laugh a bit.
     
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    #26     Apr 26, 2023
  7. cesfx

    cesfx

    #27     Apr 26, 2023
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  8. Yep; that sounds like TheDawn that I remember. :)

    I see @cesfx has posted the link. Off I go, dumpster diving...

    Thanks, guys!
     
    #28     Apr 26, 2023
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  9. Yeah, me too prefers such constructs with built-in hedging, ie. spreads etc. Mine:
    Spreads
    CC / CSP
    Collar
    Straddle, Strangle
    Butterfly
    Condor

    Btw, ignore this @TheDawn, as mostly he has no clue.
     
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    #29     Apr 26, 2023
  10. Had to log out to read it, and - yeah. Sounds like someone who was bullied in disgusting ways when young and is now attempting to reenact those times but "win" over his imaginary tormentors; that kind of weaponized ignorance and triumphant malice doesn't just appear out of thin air.

    I managed to hang on for about three pages, but that was about it. Anything more would be masochistic. Blocked he is, and blocked he stays.

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    #30     Apr 26, 2023
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